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#11
05-07-2007, 05:36 AM
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Re: observed hand played by hock
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I don't get it, why does he have to fold a better hand on the river when he is overwhelmingly sure he has the best hand and is going to get called by several worse ones? Checking the river would not be a good play IMO. [/ QUOTE ] What does 77 have beat here? 22-55? I cant think of anything else.. 
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#14
05-07-2007, 03:44 PM
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Re: observed hand played by hock
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I apologize in advance if I'm missing something here, but if everyone is over aggro as Victor suggested, wouldn't you c/c here? [/ QUOTE ] maybe if there were actually hands you beat...
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#15
05-07-2007, 04:07 PM
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Re: observed hand played by hock
fwiw -- I don't think there are any actually GOOD options here, but in hindsight, I agree that check/fold is probably best.
That said, there are arguments for bet/folding or even check/calling (against some opponents) also.
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#17
05-07-2007, 05:20 PM
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Re: observed hand played by hock
4 sure it looks like BB has a better hand, and wouldnt fold it on this board, but if BB knows Hock is smart he will know that Hock must know that on this board he has a hand he wont fold, so......
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#18
05-07-2007, 06:04 PM
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Re: observed hand played by hock
You guys are all making this too complicated.
Hand reading: BB calls on the flop. He could have a pair, he could be floating to see if we check/fold the turn. BB calls the turn. Well, he didn't raise preflop, he didn't raise the flop, he didn't raise the turn. He probably doesn't have an ace. It's most likely he has a king or an 8. The river is a jack, putting an A, K, and J all out there. The pot is big enough to make it worth trying to get an 8 to fold, as that'd be a ballsy call for an 8 to make. So, Hock bets it again, one last attempt to get an 8 to fold.
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#19
05-07-2007, 06:23 PM
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Re: observed hand played by hock
It's a bad play, simple as that. We all make them, I can dig up a few funny plays others who've replied to this thread made, including me above all since I'm the biggest fish around [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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#20
05-07-2007, 09:28 PM
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action corrected
the converter screwed up and omitted preflop. here is the raw hh:
POKERSTARS GAME #9285352654: HOLD'EM LIMIT ($100/$200) - 2007/04/06 - 17:05:27 (ET) Table 'Mirnaya' 6-max Seat #4 is the button Seat 1: TheeWave ($31666 in chips) Seat 2: chickenlittl ($3309 in chips) Seat 4: nanonoko ($8699 in chips) Seat 5: hock ($13213 in chips) Seat 6: Katja Thater ($3686.50 in chips) hock: posts small blind $50 Katja Thater: posts big blind $100 *** HOLE CARDS *** TheeWave: folds chickenlittl: folds nanonoko: raises $100 to $200 hock: raises $100 to $300 Katja Thater: calls $200 nanonoko: calls $100 *** FLOP *** [Ks 8c Ah] hock: bets $100 Katja Thater: calls $100 nanonoko: folds *** TURN *** [Ks 8c Ah] [6h] hock: bets $200 Katja Thater: calls $200 *** RIVER *** [Ks 8c Ah 6h] [Jc] hock: bets $200 Katja Thater: calls $200 *** SHOW DOWN *** hock: shows [7s 7h] (a pair of Sevens) Katja Thater: shows [Kc Qd] (a pair of Kings) Katja Thater collected $1898 from pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot $1900 | Rake $2 Board [Ks 8c Ah 6h Jc] Seat 1: TheeWave folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 2: chickenlittl folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: nanonoko (button) folded on the Flop Seat 5: hock (small blind) showed [7s 7h] and lost with a pair of Sevens Seat 6: Katja Thater (big blind) showed [Kc Qd] and won ($1898) with a pair of Kings sorry for the confusion.
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