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Old 05-03-2007, 07:38 PM
ILOVEPOKER929 ILOVEPOKER929 is offline
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Definitely check/fold river. Its all over. The only chance you have at winning this pot UI after a good player calls that flop is screw playing the turn.

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Was it really already over for me UI after the flop call? Does he ever have like AT-AQ with Ah that decides he needs to peel once and see what happens? If that's the case this turn card is obviously going to make him stick around I suppose.

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I see youre point. I just dont think he'll have that type of hand and fold it often enough to to make a river bluff profitable. I could be wrong.
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Old 05-03-2007, 08:00 PM
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I think this would be OK if I knew it was you and you knew this, but in the normal turn of events you have to put me on a made hand, for which that is a great river and I'm gonna call all day. With a lot of history/meta you need to 3 barrel here every now and then.
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Old 05-03-2007, 08:53 PM
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Default Re: Hand vs Dean on CR vid

This is a little off Topic, but does CR have much in the way of SH LHE videos?
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Old 05-03-2007, 08:59 PM
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Default Re: Hand vs Dean on CR vid

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This is a little off Topic, but does CR have much in the way of SH LHE videos?

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There are currently 6 short handed limit videos on the site with 4 being done by Dean. With the addition of Mike we will be putting out 3-4 shorthanded limit videos a month.
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Old 05-03-2007, 10:08 PM
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Default Re: Hand vs Dean on CR vid

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preflop is fine

cf river. if he called the flop with ace high hes not folding that river. if he has a pair hes gonna think about folding.

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Vs a Tag Im 3betting 98s all day in this spot assuming the BB is normal. So I certainly cant fault 97s.

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I wouldn't rr 97h here but I definately think against Dean it is not a bad play. Don't think the 3 barrel bluff was horrible at least not as bad as everyone thinks.
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Old 05-04-2007, 11:25 AM
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Default Re: Hand vs Dean on CR vid

Isn't a big part of the reason why rr 97hh here because of how it effects the profitability of our other hands?

I dunno after reading like some of the stox book i had a brief moment where I thought I should being playing like only profitable hands. But that makes no sense. The bottom part of your range is a losing part beause it make the top part a bigger winner. No?
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Old 05-04-2007, 11:34 AM
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Default Re: Hand vs Dean on CR vid

essentialy yeah. i think thats overlooked sometimes. if you never reraised good players, dean for example, in the SB with hands like this, it would make your raise frequency from the SB too small and consequently youd be pretty easy to play against (from the SB).

i think this is why some ppl said 'vs. dean this is fine'
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Old 05-04-2007, 03:16 PM
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Default Re: Hand vs Dean on CR vid

I know many players, myself included, who are able to call the turn with A high and who are able to fold on the river if they know they are up against a TAG who they think will interpret their turn call as being showdown bound. It might be a mistake to bet this river, but it is certainly only a small one if both players are TAG.
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Old 05-04-2007, 07:03 PM
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Default Re: Hand vs Dean on CR vid

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Isn't a big part of the reason why rr 97hh here because of how it effects the profitability of our other hands?

I dunno after reading like some of the stox book i had a brief moment where I thought I should being playing like only profitable hands. But that makes no sense. The bottom part of your range is a losing part beause it make the top part a bigger winner. No?

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Of course generally speaking you are correct. However, I think these days (moreso this year) in the higher games make this specific play get you crushed becasue you are OOP and people are always capping the crap they stole with from the button. You just get so wrecked here when the button is capping 22, QTs, 78s here.
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Old 05-04-2007, 07:25 PM
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Default Re: Hand vs Dean on CR vid

whenever a board pairs bluffs succeed less often.
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