another bad river bet-call

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They say they want to check because I check raised. No one knew how I played until now. You shouldn't expect a TAG to c/c, c/r made hands too often, and without knowledge that they do this, you should be betting the turn and taking the free showdown.



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this was pretty much one of the main points i was trying to drive at more or less (and why I was asking questions about how u play) when I was saying i usually bet the turn vs standard villains. And why i was so curious to hear why u said a turn bet was an issue vs u here. I remember at one point u saying u hadnt taken the ck call ck raise line with TPGK or TPMK in a long time and hardly ever do. It seems like so much of ur range on the turn would be semi-bluffs its not even a bad calldown UI, but really a tag should be check-raising the turn so seldomly here (5x is literally the only legit hand, the boards too drawy not to check-raise the flop altho I guess I should start thinking 2nd level about what boards are good for villains to two barrel A hi with) betting for a freeshowdown seems like a no brainer vs all ur worse drawing hands and loose peels wed rather not give a freecard to IMO.

I wonder if this is a spot where we should be have some balance or mixed strategy to be optimal vs observant opponents we play often? I think it should be weighted towards betting to some degree tho.