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Yanks02 · #91 02-22-2006, 02:25 AM

this is also true. I've been trying to mention some pro's and con's of the decision. I think it has ups and downs. I voted yes and that's where I stand.

The low STTF will not change much, if at all. Hopefully a high STT forum will at least give people like me a chance to look at things from another level.

fluorescenthippo · #92 02-22-2006, 02:25 AM

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ok, perfect world. the forum gets split. the elites get their owne area, what happens to the low stakes people ? who will be here to help us make our way to the next level save for a few benevolent high stakes players wishing to take a few steps off their high horse and do a few minutes of community service ? why even have a low stakes forum in that regard?

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what do the small and medium stakes NL$ players do?

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citanul · #94 02-22-2006, 02:30 AM

1) many of the social posts are made by the higher stakes players
2) how many high stakes posts do you actually think would be made?
3) how many high stakes players do you actually think are not posting because they think there is clutter?
4) why did the special "all content mostly high stakes forum" die, on the other site?
5) it's really not very hard to scroll through say, 500 posts in less than a minute. they all have their buyin information in the title now majority.
6) this means that if you actually think that the only interesting discussion can come out of the high stakes hands, you could just browse for those *incredibly* easilly.
7) many of the high stakes players have very little interest in this
8) none of the low stakes posters would restrain themselves from posting comments on the high stakes hands, you'd still have to wade through them in the high stakes forum
9) none of hte low stakes players want this to happen, as at the moment high stakes players comment on their hands and they would prefer them to be given less disincentivization from doing so in the future, they want to get better too, and that process will be slowed dramatically if they have fewer high stakes players commenting on their hands.
10) i don't think the desires of the 15 posters who really qualify as high stakes players can possibly outweigh the pile of hundreds of low stakes players who wouldn't want it.
11) i think you'd be shocked at how incredibly quickly the high stakes forum would shrivel up and die, as basically no high stakes player ever cares enough to post about anything. this isn't because they don't like the forum, it's because after a few thousand sngs, really there aren't that many things that are intersting that come up. continuing, a forum with 5 posts a day just wouldn't be that good.
12) didn't we just have this discussion last week? i'm sorry that since the last time this idea came up, a new generation of people have "retired," and a new bunch of the low stakes players have become the grumpy old high stakes players, but come on, s.m.d.

in summary, i think the idea is lousy.

c

editing to add: i didn't read any of the rest of this thread. i'm sure other people have thought or posted about other things. i particularly want to point out number 8. if you think having a high stakes forum would just mean that high stakes players would post there only, you are a moron. anyway, i'm not going to read the rest of this thread either, i'll read responses to my post, and children of that node, but none other.

WebGuySteve · #95 02-22-2006, 02:31 AM

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I think having a forum devoted to higher stakes hands is a good idea. I've been coming here sporatically over the last couple of months, but I don't like picking through all the garbage to find an interesting discussion. I promise to post more (some?) if the forum gets split*.

*I've told myself many times in the past that I would do this, so its hardly a guarentee. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

moses

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I couldn't have said it better myself. I voted split, and $100+

curtains · #96 02-22-2006, 02:33 AM

Well ok obviously more than 15 want it based on the poll results.....anyway I still don't think its necessary. I also don't believe the "high stakes" players will post that much more. But whatever, since the poll results are overwhelmingly in favor of splitting the forums, I think it'd at least be interesting.

suzzer99 · #97 02-22-2006, 02:35 AM

Well the poll seems to say otherwise. And if it shrivels up and dies, what's the harm? It's not like you have to sacrifice a baby to make a new forum. If that happens, you get to run and say I told you so, and no one will be able to bug you again for a HS forum for at least a couple years.

ALReturnsLOL · #98 02-22-2006, 02:35 AM

As Gigabet said in "Almost there with success and failure." He does not normally respond to posts b/c it can't be good for his long term financial situation. It makes sense that many high stakes players don't post that much for this same reason. Not because they don't have their own forum.

hoyasnaxa · #99 02-22-2006, 02:35 AM

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8) none of the low stakes posters would restrain themselves from posting comments on the high stakes hands, you'd still have to wade through them in the high stakes forum

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this is definitely true. everyone would try to move to the hi stakes forum.

citanul · #**100** 02-22-2006, 02:37 AM

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Well ok obviously more than 15 want it based on the poll results.....anyway I still don't think its necessary. I also don't believe the "high stakes" players will post that much more. But whatever, since the poll results are overwhelmingly in favor of splitting the forums, I think it'd at least be interesting.

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oh, puh-lease, if you look at the poll results, the people who want to split the forum are dominated by people who think that 109s are high stakes sngs.

c