no don imus discussion?

[kerowo]

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What killed Imus in the end is that he has been an [censored] on and off the air for those 37 years. There are a lot of people who hate him. This was much, much bigger than some comment he made about the Rutger's team. This was agendas pushed and muscles flexed like something I have never seen before.

I find this hugely effecting the way I do my job. Having to change where I have set boundries for myself. Not that I am known for racially insesitive comments, but sexually insensitive comments sure, politically incorrect comments sure and I'm a guppy where one of the big fish just got taken out.

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Welcome to 1991. It amazes me that people still don't understand that there is a difference between private speech and public speech. It's amazing that people don't understand that you can't use ethnic slurs unless you are a part of that ethnic group. It is just sad that people get so pissy when someone is held accountable for their speech.

Imus was done as soon as this story made it past day 2, he didn't help himself by trying to stay in the spotlight with his apologies. He should have issued the standard public statement apology and dissapeared for 2 weeks. I think instead of putting on the tin-foil hat and looking for some master plan to remove him you should look to cable news channels. 24 hours of content is a lot of air to fill and Imus came along when nothing better was going on, so his story stayed on the air.

I would be more concerned about this if he was some edgy news guy doing real investigative reporting and was silenced because of some dark secret he was getting close to, but he wasn't. He was a loud mouthed shock jock who said something stupid. Too many of them around any way.

[Gordon Scott]

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Jason Whitlock, an outspoken critic of Imus, wrote a great article yesterday about the incident. The article provides good arguments wtih a different perspective. I think a lot of you (who are interested) will enjoy reading it.

http://www.kansascity.com/182/story/66339.html

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Talk about hitting the nail on the head.

This should be the head line news “The Rev Al and Jessie have spent the week helping to promote drugs and violence against women by misdirecting the public view of what’s really wrong in black America to a washed up shock jock”.

I’m sure there’ is a special little corner in Hell for these guys right next to the TV evangelist that rip off little old ladies.

I don’t know what religion these two fine men of god represent but Imus said he was wrong and he has asked to be forgiven.

GS

[Sluss]

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Welcome to 1991. It amazes me that people still don't understand that there is a difference between private speech and public speech. It's amazing that people don't understand that you can't use ethnic slurs unless you are a part of that ethnic group. It is just sad that people get so pissy when someone is held accountable for their speech.

[/ QUOTE ] Your right "ethinic slurs" are wrong. You can't say them shouldn't say them and you should be punished for using these on the air. But I think this is one of the problems we have. Why can you use an ethnic slur if your part of that ethnic group? It sets a double standard. If this is really destroying race relations in our society then it is the same no matter who says it. I thought our goal in all of this is to have an intergrated society where everyone is looked upon as equals. If we keep putting ourselves and other people into categories we can never reach that point.

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Imus was done as soon as this story made it past day 2, he didn't help himself by trying to stay in the spotlight with his apologies. He should have issued the standard public statement apology and dissapeared for 2 weeks. I think instead of putting on the tin-foil hat and looking for some master plan to remove him you should look to cable news channels. 24 hours of content is a lot of air to fill and Imus came along when nothing better was going on, so his story stayed on the air.

I would be more concerned about this if he was some edgy news guy doing real investigative reporting and was silenced because of some dark secret he was getting close to, but he wasn't. He was a loud mouthed shock jock who said something stupid. Too many of them around any way.

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The real irony in all of this if the radioathon wasn't on yesterday and today he would have been insta banned for two weeks and this would have blown over and would have never even made it half as far. So for trying to to good, he lost his job. I think that is a great message to send.

One of the things you learn day one in radio is that you have to set a line for yourself. Which has a lot to do with the station you work for. Then you spend your whole show running right to that line, but never crossing it. Having to reset that line is one of the most difficult things to do.

I'm not sure if you ever listend to Imus. But there is nobody doing the type of show he was at the scope he was doing it at. He would be goofing around with John McCain, John Kerry, Rudy Gulianni and Tim Russert all in the same day. There was no other show where these guys opened up like this and it will have a pretty big impact on this election. He was a shock jock that was accepted by Washington and political people giving him a broad range of people and ideas on the air.

There are alot of people who I don't like on TV and radio. Imus was one of them. That doesn't mean I didn't understand what he was doing and the purpose it served.

[Blarg]

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You bet your butt that you need to watch what you say at work and who you say it to. You'll be in a world of hurt if you make a risque joke to the wrong person and they don't think it's funny. Save that kinda thing for your friends at work

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Forgot to mention I talk on the radio for a living.

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Obviously, but he still raises an interesting point. Everyone else has to put up with these strictures every day in the workplace, so it's not like that's not the way we do things these days. It's because that's how we do things these days that it even became a problem for guys like you.

Where were you, and the rest of us, by the way, when racial and sexual hysteria took over the rest of the workplace?

[Sluss]

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You bet your butt that you need to watch what you say at work and who you say it to. You'll be in a world of hurt if you make a risque joke to the wrong person and they don't think it's funny. Save that kinda thing for your friends at work

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Forgot to mention I talk on the radio for a living.

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Obviously, but he still raises an interesting point. Everyone else has to put up with these strictures every day in the workplace, so it's not like that's not the way we do things these days. It's because that's how we do things these days that it even became a problem for guys like you.

Where were you, and the rest of us, by the way, when racial and sexual hysteria took over the rest of the workplace?

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I can't speak for everyone, but I think one of the things that has made me entertaining personally is that I'll say things to and about people you wish you could say to them. I find that entertaining I know alot of people think that it is entertaining. Maybe you don't.

Also remember that you have rules written down that you cannot do. I don't have the luxury. It's my own judgment. A miscalcuation in that judgement used to mean a meeting or even a suspension. Now it could mean I'm fired.

[DarthIgnurnt]

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he should be fired for looking like a lizard and not being able to speak english.

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QFT. Actually I agree with pretty much all you said about Imus. He's not interesting or funny. He's basically irrelevant. That said, firing him is insane, and it is evidence that this country is full of overly sensitive wimps.

The Rutgers girls should have said as much in their press conference. "We don't care what he said. He's irrelevant, and no one was listening anyway. "

HOWEVER, if I was Imus (yikes), I would have definitely come prepared to debate Sharpton, who not only has made equivalent or worse comments publicly (many, many times), but who also "made his name" by making up a story about a young black girl being raped by white cops.

Sharpton is by far the bigger scumbag, and that's saying a lot in this case.

[Osprey]

There's always been a double standard as far as criticism and making fun of an ethnic group go. People in that group have much more of a free rein to say things that peolpe outside the group could never say.

For instance, in a serious way (not even talking comedy routines now) Bill Cosby says things about rap and black culture that he takes a lot of heat for, but I doubt a white person could face the firestorm that they would be in if they said the same things.

Cosby Criticizes Black Youth

[By-Tor]

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There's always been a double standard as far as criticism and making fun of an ethnic group go. People in that group have much more of a free rein to say things that peolpe outside the group could never say.

For instance, in a serious way (not even talking comedy routines now) Bill Cosby says things about rap and black culture that he takes a lot of heat for, but I doubt a white person could face the firestorm that they would be in if they said the same things.

Cosby Criticizes Black Youth

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were cbs and nbc paying cosby's salary and giving him a nation audience?

the guy got fired. not kicked out of the country.

people care about this?

[Jack of Arcades]

ThinMan, voice of reason.

[hiho]

I still can't for the life of me understand why someone would get fired for saying something that he thought was hip because he heard it in a movie. I can't stand Imus and I never listen to him however I think that it is a crime that he was fired. If was a black man saying those comments about white women then he would never get fired. Al and Jessie wouldn't let it happen.

I'll never buy a thing from the sponcers that dropped out due to the pressure from the few that care about the comments. If you seriously are affected by the joking comments by one person then you need to seek help. Imus is not the problem. People that are acting like firing Imus is going to fix racism and sexism in this country are blinded by the truth.