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Old 04-13-2007, 11:15 AM
NHFunkii NHFunkii is offline
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It's unbelievable that people playing 55 freezeouts are so clueless.

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it is?
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Old 04-13-2007, 11:36 AM
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Default Re: calling all-in with AK (again)

when i posted this problem I wanted to hear your arguments favor or against calling.
when I arise reasons for folding it doesn't mean that I did fold, it just maens that I want to hear your responds to why they are true or false. (this is the true way of learning isn't it?) isn't that why we all here?

so arrogant remarks like Hundrye's ,shaundeeb's and some others are not needed and if that's all what you guys have to say so you better not respond at all.

on the other hand seke, thanks a lot for addressing each of my questions.

BTW the results - I called this and the SB showed J4 off and the BB showed K2 suit. I won the side pot.
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Old 04-13-2007, 11:37 AM
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I'm amazed that arguably the best player on Stars is telling you all that you're wrong and nobody wants to beleive him.

Contrary to what you might think, you're still far away from significant money here and with the blinds rising your 'medium' stack will soon be one of the shorter ones. Sitting back and allowing the bigger stacks to absorb the small ones puts you at more of a disadvantage than you realize, especially as you start to play from 3 tables down to 1 and most of your play is shorthanded. Once the blinds go up and 3 or 4 more people get knocked out your 170k stack will be gone rather fast due to the blinds and antes. That's what... 15 minutes away tops? Realize that you are going to get about $200 for making the top 18 vs $10k+ for getting first. Which prize do you REALLY want?

You say your table might break and you might end up in a better seat...

Or you could also be moved and sandwiched between the two chip leaders...

The reality is nobody knows which table will break or where you will end up afterwards if it does break...

The only thing that's sure is folding AK in this spot is a huge mistake. Folding is definitely much worse than calling here.
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Old 04-13-2007, 11:42 AM
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I'm amazed that arguably the best player on Stars is telling you all that you're wrong and nobody wants to beleive him.

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and who should that be?
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Old 04-13-2007, 11:43 AM
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I'm amazed that arguably the best player on Stars is telling you all that you're wrong and nobody wants to beleive him.

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and who should that be?

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Shaundeeb... the guy at the top of the yearly TLB.
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Old 04-13-2007, 11:46 AM
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I'm amazed that arguably the best player on Stars is telling you all that you're wrong and nobody wants to beleive him.

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and who should that be?

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Shaundeeb... the guy at the top of the yearly TLB.

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you mean the arrogant kid who plays 50 tables of 4$ /180 players tourney all day? no wonder he is the TLB leader.
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Old 04-13-2007, 12:01 PM
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Default Re: calling all-in with AK (again)

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so arrogant remarks like Hundrye's ,shaundeeb's

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I would like you to show where the [censored] my post is arrogant. All i said was that it's a waste for guys like shaundeeb to try to help you while someone else would have a much better chance of actually learning from their advice. I'm no advanced tournament player at all, but when someone posts they don't want to be all-in with AK against 62 in this spot, and still not just appreciate the advice they get, yes i laugh at them.
And calling shaundeeb arrogant is ridiculous as well. When someone is as good as he is, it's called self-confidence. And he didn't make an arrogant comment anyway.
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Old 04-13-2007, 12:07 PM
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[/ QUOTE ] And he didn't make an arrogant comment anyway.

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please tell me if this is not arrogant :

dedor and other morons in this thread you don't realize how big of a +cEV and +$EV spot this is and if you are passing this up then you might as well open fold and save yourself the 3bb. Honestly I am sure after reading your comments you guys are the many 2+2ers who are losing players and feeding mine and other better players bankrolls because you suck at tourneys about as much as it is humanly possibly
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Old 04-13-2007, 12:09 PM
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no shame in telling it like it is
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Old 04-13-2007, 12:09 PM
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shaundeeb is pretty arrogant, but he's also usually right.
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