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Old 04-10-2007, 03:32 AM
Josh W Josh W is offline
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Default 5-10 preflop question

Hi. I'm Josh. I'm new here, so I don't know if 5-10 hands go here or in medium stakes. I looked at both, but medium seems to mostly be NL100 and NL200.

I'm also new to no-limit. So far, I win when I drink and I lose when I don't. I'm not sure how much nolimit my liver can take.

I was playing in a live game today. I had about $600 in front of me, and most others had me covered.

UTG straddled. 3 years ago, I'd assume everybody knows what this means, and I still assume that. But, I'll explain it. It means that he put out a $20 blind UTG, and got last action preflop.

Now, he's done this for a few orbits, and every time, he's re-raised. The table is fairly loose and passive, with 5 or 6 players seeing most flops, and only about 25% of hands have a preflop raise. Most of these 25% are when the UTG guy from this hand straddles, then reraises.

He generally raises to 100-160, depending on how many limpers. Given all of this information, my question is....

UTG+1 limps.

You have JJ. What do you do?

I should say that....I had a very tight image, sorta. I was the tightest player at the table, but 2 rounds earlier, I raised preflop on the button with K9, flopped a straight, and busted a mini-stack. I think maybe 3 people at the table paid enough attention to know that I was tight.

So, what do I do here?

Thanks.

Josh
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Old 04-10-2007, 03:38 AM
TheWorstPlayer TheWorstPlayer is offline
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Default Re: 5-10 preflop question

id just raise. sure maybe you can LRR, but there's already a decent pot brewing and you'd hate to have this be the one hand it limps around. hell, maybe straddler even reraises for you.

edit: also, welcome to the NL forums. 5/10 goes in MSNL. just on the first page, i count at least 6 threads with '5/10' right in the title as well as one 10/20 hand. not sure where you were seeing 'mostly NL100 and NL200'.
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Old 04-10-2007, 03:48 AM
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Default Re: 5-10 preflop question

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UTG straddled. 3 years ago, I'd assume everybody knows what this means, and I still assume that. But, I'll explain it. It means that he put out a $20 blind UTG, and got last action preflop.

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Thank you! God! For all this time, progressing up to high stakes, I ALWAYS wondered what that meant. I was always too embarrassed to ask, so thank you.

Oh, and I like the limp, backraise strategy on this guy if he really is raising all his straddles. But, not with anything crappier than JJ for sure. If, on the off chance, it gets limped around, who cares? So, hope to flop a J or just play it cautious, don't lose yourself a big pot just because you limped with JJ, it's an easy fold usually.
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Old 04-10-2007, 03:53 AM
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UTG straddled. 3 years ago, I'd assume everybody knows what this means, and I still assume that. But, I'll explain it. It means that he put out a $20 blind UTG, and got last action preflop.

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Thank you! God! For all this time, progressing up to high stakes, I ALWAYS wondered what that meant. I was always too embarrassed to ask, so thank you.

Oh, and I like the limp, backraise strategy on this guy if he really is raising all his straddles. But, not with anything crappier than JJ for sure. If, on the off chance, it gets limped around, who cares? So, hope to flop a J or just play it cautious, don't lose yourself a big pot just because you limped with JJ, it's an easy fold usually.

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I think your first paragraph was sarcasm, but one can never be too sure when tone isn't involved. I guess I likened it to things like chopping blinds....if you only play online, you won't be familiar with it, regardless of how good you are.

And, I was obviously way wrong. Maybe a mod can move this to MSNL. I clicked "full ring" accidently, thinking it was MSNL. Look, I never claimed to be smart (well, I did once in 3rd grade, but I've changed a lot since then).

Josh
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Old 04-10-2007, 06:52 AM
Lawrence Ng Lawrence Ng is offline
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UTG straddled. 3 years ago, I'd assume everybody knows what this means, and I still assume that. But, I'll explain it. It means that he put out a $20 blind UTG, and got last action preflop.

[/ QUOTE ]

Thank you! God! For all this time, progressing up to high stakes, I ALWAYS wondered what that meant. I was always too embarrassed to ask, so thank you.

Oh, and I like the limp, backraise strategy on this guy if he really is raising all his straddles. But, not with anything crappier than JJ for sure. If, on the off chance, it gets limped around, who cares? So, hope to flop a J or just play it cautious, don't lose yourself a big pot just because you limped with JJ, it's an easy fold usually.

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I think your first paragraph was sarcasm, but one can never be too sure when tone isn't involved. I guess I likened it to things like chopping blinds....if you only play online, you won't be familiar with it, regardless of how good you are.

And, I was obviously way wrong. Maybe a mod can move this to MSNL. I clicked "full ring" accidently, thinking it was MSNL. Look, I never claimed to be smart (well, I did once in 3rd grade, but I've changed a lot since then).

Josh

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Josh, If I didn't know you from your style of writing all these years I would have thought your entire post was sarcastic. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 04-10-2007, 09:54 AM
TheWorstPlayer TheWorstPlayer is offline
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Default Re: 5-10 preflop question

wtf? you live?
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Old 04-10-2007, 06:12 PM
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Josh, I share your experience with alcohol and NL. the key though, is to get a little drunk and NOT get alot drunk. As for the hand situation, I like a limp/reraise big to isolate this particular player.
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Old 04-10-2007, 07:04 PM
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i put him on AK, pretty easy push
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Old 04-10-2007, 08:16 PM
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wtf? you live?

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srsly.
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Old 04-11-2007, 01:44 AM
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Default Re: 5-10 preflop question

How is midstakes 100NL/200NL hands? Are there even any hands of those stakes? I just looked through the first 5 pages and couldn't find one
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