25/50 stars hand

[aurelien]

even i would have bet the turn, betting the river makes sense. he can be paid off by a lot of hands, even if he bluffed (tough)...

[johnnyrocket]

this is a tough spot, well played and i fold the river, i like leading the turn here tho in case he is drawing and see how he plays back at you. I think this was the key part was checking the turn.

I hate betting river without a plan so I think I have to agree with Jason and check-call anything

[EmpireMaker2]

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Great hand.

River is interesting (up until then it seems v standard). Roman is a very good player and I really like his game. If you check here, he will value bet pretty thin. Im not sure if he bets like QQ or something on the river, but he might? More importantly, he will bluff a shitton on this river when checked to.

Depending on the flow, I probably really dislike your river bet. Roman can A) Move in as a bluff, B) rarely call with worse. Plus if you check he will A) value bet an ace that he might fold with to your bet, B) Bluff, C) rarely call with worse.

Because good players have no fear value betting, I feel like you really dont lose that much value by checking is the bottom line because they will put in the money for you, and you avoid the trouble that is presented to you here. I hate when people take lines that avoid tough spots, but honestly here is a spot versus a good player that I might lean towards a more conservative line.

As played, I honestly have no idea what to do, I think I expect roman to bet on this turn with a flush most of the time. But its a chicken and egg type thing because he knows you will know that so he takes that into account but you also know that blah blah blah.

I find this spot really hard to bluff in though, but Roman is a very strong player and I dont put it past him.

-Jason

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This is a great post

[Lefort]

Yeah I read this earlier today and was going to say "c/c river" but didn't have a great way to formulate words to explain it, but Jason did a great job of it..

[Kirkrrr]

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I hate betting river without a plan so I think I have to agree with Jason and check-call anything

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