EPT Monte Carlo Trip Report (3rd and Final Part)

[Zimmer4141]

Let me preface this by saying that I don't have near the experience of AJ or some of the other tournament players who have already commented.

If you are so sure you are ahead of his range, I don't get why you don't push pf. If you know that his range is as large as you described it, then push preflop. He would have to laydown almost anything but AA-QQ. Because the hands he will fold seem to comprise about 90% of his range in your eyes, I don't get why you wouldn't want to pick up 9k right there.

[ASPoker8]

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Let me preface this by saying that I don't have near the experience of AJ or some of the other tournament players who have already commented.

If you are so sure you are ahead of his range, I don't get why you don't push pf. If you know that his range is as large as you described it, then push preflop. He would have to laydown almost anything but AA-QQ. Because the hands he will fold seem to comprise about 90% of his range in your eyes, I don't get why you wouldn't want to pick up 9k right there.

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AJ calling preflop is stronger than shoving preflop. Patrik's preflop range changes when he shoves the flop.

[sethypooh21]

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If you are so sure you are ahead of his range, I don't get why you don't push pf.

[/ QUOTE ]3 reasons - A) you win small and lose big B) it's exploitable, PA can use similar action to induce a massive overbet all in when he does have a hand. C) With position, AJ thinks he can get more than the 9k out of him if he plays postflop.

[A_Junglen]

I'm also mildly offended by those who are claiming this is an "ego" call or that I've been arrogant after making this call. I've just clearly, concisely wrote down my thought process. I knew I shouldn't have posted anything....I guess I'm sorry if I sound cocky after my hero told me "I play amazing." (which sounded like a summary of the day, not just the one hand)

Ask Gobbo, Carl, Ray, David Ross, Matt (mlagoo), Yuv, DeleteYou, or anyone else that spoke with me on break while I was playing with Patrik. I was NOT happy that Patrik was at my table, and was honestly terrified.

That being said, I'm not going to just concede and let Patrik run the table. You know how I got my stack to 60k?

Playing (and winning) pots against Patrik Antonius.

Read my previous reports. I profited 10k when I coolered a pot committed opponent with QQ vs his AQ on the AQJ, and won AA vs 99 for a profit of 10k.

I played some small ball and we'll say profited another 10k.

So, that's +30k from coolers/small ball + 15k starting stack = 45k. I had 60k...so where did the other 25% of my stack come from?

The good aggressive player to my right.

[RaMz123]

Fold there pretty bad if u think ur ahead, and I dont really see what sort of hand that patrik will shove there that beats AJ often enough not to have pot odds there. Of course its a bit spewy but if u are dealing with a player that is capable of playing very very sick, what are u suppose to do about it, be a donk and say: I know I have u but im going to fold anyway. I understand people who say adam played bad and its unecessary to risk that many chips when u have a got table to grind at and that is very true, but still it is not a bad call, its probably a marginally good call, and with the money in there I think u have to make it if ur a good player.

What sort of hand should patrik have here? AA/KK/set he doesnt overpush here, he bets 10-15k and calls an all in bet, because he would need to be able to fold a bad hand if he bets it, the bet is 100% wanting to get a fold from a better hand. So wtf does he have. Its a hard fold in my mind.

[betgo]

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Let me preface this by saying that I don't have near the experience of AJ or some of the other tournament players who have already commented.

If you are so sure you are ahead of his range, I don't get why you don't push pf. If you know that his range is as large as you described it, then push preflop. He would have to laydown almost anything but AA-QQ. Because the hands he will fold seem to comprise about 90% of his range in your eyes, I don't get why you wouldn't want to pick up 9k right there.

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I like the push preflop and think it is the most profitable approach. However, PA's calling range is way wider than QQ-AA in this situation. He only has to win 39% of the time and OP does not necessarily have a huge hand. Probably any hand that dominates AJo is calling, and probably some others.

Like I said, I think OP wanted to outplay PA, put PA in a difficult situation, and bust out PA, and I think that influenced his play.

[Jurollo]

Adam,
I won't speak to it being an ego call because I don't think it was. But there is a not so subtle arrogance to all of your posts about it since. If you cant see it that scares me.
~J

[A_Junglen]

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Adam,
I won't speak to it being an ego call because I don't think it was. But there is a not so subtle arrogance to all of your posts about it since. If you cant see it that scares me.
~J

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Yea, I can see it does.


Before "the" hand, a player whom I won't name (but can feel free to reveal themselves) told me:

"Adam, you're 10x the player I could ever hope to be"

and he was dead serious. This was from someone who is very respected and a good friend of mine. I wanted to cry.

Then, Aaron's comment on P5's was incredibly flattering as well. I've also never known Aaron as someone to give out compliments easily.

Finally, Patrik Antonius himself complimented me.

The past 2 weeks I've heard the nicest things anyone's ever said to me. I think most people my age, in my spot would've handled this (oh yea, and the outdraw) much worse.

[Foucault]

Peoples,

We just read an enjoyable story about a guy named Adam Junglen. This story was written in the first person by a guy named A_Junglen. Accusing the 2+2 poster A_Junglen of being arrogant because the character Adam Junglen is arrogant is silly. Character Adam Junglen played well, made some good reads, made a hero call, got complimented by his hero, etc. It's a good story that's made better by the character's demeanor. So chill.

(Obviously 2+2 poster A_Junglen also isn't going to line up perfectly with "real live person" Adam Junglen whom some of you have met either, but that's a whole other level.)

Just appreciate the story for what it is, discuss the hand for what it is, and leave personal attacks/advice/chiding/whatever out of it. Thanks,

Foucault

[sethypooh21]

I don't know Adam from, well, Adam, but should he not feel a little affirmed/vindicated/proud after Antonius basically conceded being outplayed? Now, whether he starts waving his peen whenever he plays, pulling an Arieh-like "Patrik Antonius says I play amazing, and you're calling me with that?" or not is a different story.