NL10 FR: KK 4-way pot against short stacks

[Jducky996]

Long time reader, first time poster. Not too much on any of the opponents.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP3 ($6.25)
CO ($5.80)
Button ($3.85)
SB ($10.60)
BB ($4.50)
Hero ($9.85)
UTG+1 ($5.70)
MP1 ($13.05)
MP2 ($4)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.4</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.40, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, SB calls $0.35, BB calls $0.30.

Flop: ($1.60) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $2.5</font>, SB folds, BB calls $2.50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ?

whats my line?

Results will be posted later

[boycalledroy]

Push, all pp's from 66-&gt;QQ are paying you. If a guy has a 4, c'est l'avi. You can't just call because if a guy is on a club flush and the next card is a club its also hard to paly!

[@PpReNt1cE]

You raised pre flop so I don't expect a 4, but at the same time it still would not suprise me. 55 is your biggest concern right now and if you are up against that you still have 2 outs to beat them.
Push it all in and you are called by both players because they both have the odds to call no matter what and you are way ahead of both of them I suspect. Then again you don't have a read on them so we can't say that for sure.
Keep in mind a straight flush draw while behind here, actually has better odds of winning the pot than you do (this would be a good reason to have a read on your opponents). [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

I push all in with no read. I expect to see 55 or any over pair to the board.

[elmopoker]

This is $10nl so don't be surprised to see a 4. BB looks like he's on a flush draw. I'd probably shove and hope the flush doesnt come.

[Jducky996]

I figured at least one of them had a flush/straight draw, but the BB cold calling a re-raise for more than half his chips put alarms off in my head. I think if you are gonna call that from the BB you should just shove it in there and not just call.

[tarheeljks]

i think this is right on the money. at these limits, you are beating many hands that will call. i can't put either of these guys on 55, they are short stacked so they would have pushed instead of just rring. move it in and hope it holds up.

[@PpReNt1cE]

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i can't put either of these guys on 55, they are short stacked so they would have pushed instead of just rring.

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Quite contrary. If I had 55 I would simply rr to go make a weaker person think that. The player is basically all in anyways, when you push he has to call almost no matter what anyways, so you may as well think of the rr as an All In.

That still does not change the fact that you push here. The number of hands that you beat is way more and way more likely than the number of hands that currently have you beat.

[tarheeljks]

you have so little money behind that the rr is essentially an all in, so i view the two as the same move. anyway if he's got it i'm paying him off.

[@PpReNt1cE]

tarheeljks, I think you missunderstood me. I was saying if I was the opponent holding 55 I would rr vs going all in because I am essentially placing over half my stack into a pot that I am putting it all in anyways.

[Jducky996]

what kind of hand would the BB cold call with on the flop?