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Old 03-28-2007, 07:49 PM
goat_beard goat_beard is offline
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Default Major Downswing. Lots of hands, need lots of help.

Alright guys, so today I was feeling confident before signing on FTP and playing. I was finally up 7.5 buyins and then boom -6.5 buyins in 1hr. Im posting all hands that had net profit of -5$ or more. Feel free to help, flame, or whatever you please. Thanks ahead of time though.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$0.05/$0.10 Blinds
4 Players
Lego Poker Hand Converter

<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
<font color="green">SB: $10.75</font>
BB: $13.70
<font color="green">Hero (UTG): $11</font>
BTN: $13.95

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($0.15, 4 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $0.35</font>, BTN folds, SB calls $0.30, BB folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($0.80, 2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $0.80</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3.20</font>, <font color="red">SB raises all-in to $10.40</font>, Hero calls $7.20

<font color="black">Turn:</font> 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($21.60, 2 Players - 1 All-In)
No Action

<font color="black">River:</font> 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($21.60, 2 Players - 1 All-In)
No Action

Pot Size: $21.60 ($1 Rake)

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$0.05/$0.10 Blinds
6 Players
Lego Poker Hand Converter

<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
SB: $10.30
<font color="black">Hero (BB): $10.30</font>
<font color="green">UTG: $9.25</font>
MP: $9.45
<font color="black">CO: $4.40</font>
BTN: $7.85

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($0.15, 6 Players)
UTG calls $0.10, MP folds, CO calls $0.10, <font color="red">BTN raises to $0.20</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.85</font>, UTG calls $0.75, CO calls $0.75, BTN folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($2.80, 3 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $2.30</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4.60</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $6.90</font>, Hero folds
Uncalled bet of $2.30 returned to UTG

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$0.05/$0.10 Blinds
6 Players
Lego Poker Hand Converter

<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
SB: $7.90
BB: $13.70
UTG: $11.75
<font color="green">Hero (MP): $9.95</font>
CO: $25.45
<font color="green">BTN: $12.45</font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($0.15, 6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.40</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $2</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $9.95</font>, BTN calls $7.95

<font color="black">Flop:</font> 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($20.05, 2 Players - 1 All-In)
No Action

<font color="black">Turn:</font> 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($20.05, 2 Players - 1 All-In)
No Action

<font color="black">River:</font> 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($20.05, 2 Players - 1 All-In)
No Action

Pot Size: $20.05 ($2 Rake)


Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$0.05/$0.10 Blinds
5 Players
Lego Poker Hand Converter

<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
SB: $10.35
<font color="green">Hero (BB): $10</font>
<font color="green">UTG: $5.10</font>
CO: $6.80
BTN: $10.75

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($0.15, 5 Players)
UTG calls $0.10, CO folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $0.20</font>, SB calls $0.15, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.90</font>, UTG calls $0.80, 2 folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($2.20, 2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $2.20</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises all-in to $4.20</font>, Hero calls $2

<font color="black">Turn:</font> 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($10.60, 2 Players - 1 All-In)
No Action

<font color="black">River:</font> 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($10.60, 2 Players - 1 All-In)
No Action

Pot Size: $10.60 ($1 Rake)


Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$0.05/$0.10 Blinds
6 Players
Lego Poker Hand Converter

<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
SB: $9.40
BB: $5.45
UTG: $10
MP: $9.90
<font color="green">Hero (CO): $10.70</font>
<font color="green">BTN: $13.80</font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($0.15, 6 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.35</font>, BTN calls $0.35, 2 folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($0.85, 2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $0.85</font>, BTN calls $0.85

<font color="black">Turn:</font> 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($2.55, 2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $2.55</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises all-in to $12.60</font>, Hero calls all-in for $6.95
Uncalled bet of $3.10 returned to BTN

<font color="black">River:</font> 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($21.55, 2 Players - 2 All-In)
No Action

Pot Size: $21.55 ($2 Rake)

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$0.05/$0.10 Blinds
6 Players
Lego Poker Hand Converter

<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
SB: $8.25
<font color="black">BB: $10</font>
UTG: $24.55
MP: $3
<font color="green">CO: $19.65</font>
<font color="green">Hero (BTN): $11.85</font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($0.15, 6 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $0.40</font>, Hero calls $0.40, SB folds, BB calls $0.30

<font color="black">Flop:</font> 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($1.25, 3 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">CO bets $1.20</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3.60</font>, BB folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $11.10</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $11.45</font>, CO calls $0.35

<font color="black">Turn:</font> 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($24.15, 2 Players - 1 All-In)
No Action

<font color="black">River:</font> 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($24.15, 2 Players - 1 All-In)
No Action

Pot Size: $24.15 ($2 Rake)

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$0.05/$0.10 Blinds
5 Players
Lego Poker Hand Converter

<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
SB: $26.90
<font color="green">BB: $6.65</font>
<font color="black">UTG: $11.90</font>
CO: $11.40
<font color="green">Hero (BTN): $8.50</font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($0.15, 5 Players)
UTG calls $0.10, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.45</font>, SB folds, BB calls $0.35, UTG calls $0.35

<font color="black">Flop:</font> A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($1.40, 3 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $2</font>, UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $8.05</font>, BB calls all-in for $4.20
Uncalled bet of $1.85 returned to Hero

<font color="black">Turn:</font> A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($13.80, 2 Players - 2 All-In)
No Action

<font color="black">River:</font> A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($13.80, 2 Players - 2 All-In)
No Action

Pot Size: $13.80 ($1 Rake)


Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$0.05/$0.10 Blinds
4 Players
Lego Poker Hand Converter

<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
<font color="green">Hero (SB): $13.40</font>
<font color="green">BB: $8.95</font>
<font color="black">UTG: $3.65</font>
<font color="black">BTN: $2.30</font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($0.15, 4 Players)
UTG calls $0.10, BTN calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.05, BB checks

<font color="black">Flop:</font> A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($0.40, 4 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $0.40</font>, BB calls $0.40, UTG folds, BTN calls $0.40

<font color="black">Turn:</font> A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($1.60, 3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $1.60</font>, BB calls $1.60, BTN folds

<font color="black">River:</font> A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($4.80, 2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $3.50</font>, BB calls $3.50

Pot Size: $11.80 ($1 Rake)

THANKS GUYS!
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Old 03-28-2007, 07:55 PM
marvin_1935 marvin_1935 is offline
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Default Re: Major Downswing. Lots of hands, need lots of help.

it would be easier to respond if you posted only 1 hand at a time. it looks like you're getting ai in marginal spots.
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Old 03-28-2007, 07:55 PM
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Default Re: Major Downswing. Lots of hands, need lots of help.

Big pots are for big hands - One pair isn't a big hand, especially when it's not even top pair! Stop overplaying your hands and you'll definitely stop losing as much.

The last hand, when he calls the flop and the turn, he's not folding on a blank river. Don't bluff at these levels, they'll very rarely work.
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Old 03-28-2007, 08:17 PM
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Default Re: Major Downswing. Lots of hands, need lots of help.

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it would be easier to respond if you posted only 1 hand at a time. it looks like you're getting ai in marginal spots.

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Old 03-28-2007, 08:47 PM
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Default Re: Major Downswing. Lots of hands, need lots of help.

My take: You're playing like a total LAGtard. Works for a while, then people figure out what you're doing and pick good hands to stand up to you with.

Even top-pair, top kicker is a dangerous hand to hold at no-limit. It often loses when it gets big action. You're betting mediocre pairs and good draws like you've got trips or better, and you're not fooling anyone (anymore).
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Old 03-28-2007, 09:04 PM
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Default Re: Major Downswing. Lots of hands, need lots of help.

Post one hand at a time.

Hand 1:
If you plan on playing this, just call the flop. A lot of combo draws are shoving on you, two pairs, top pairs scared of draws hitting etc. So like 90 percent of time you are crushed, keep the pot small and trust value bet river or something.

Hand 2:
Pretty hard to say w/out reads, if you think he'd do this with flush draws then call all day here. Not sure why you're 3betting him pf with 77, I assume you have a read and he raises pf a lot or something. Please loose 3-bet with a reason. So now you 3bet, representing a big pair/AK/AQ and you check the flop? NO. lol You bet and depending on opponent its a call or a fold. I can't tell you.

Hand 3:
Do you have a read? No? SPEW. Fold pf, pretty sure you don't have implied odds here.

Hand 4:
Questionable. Pf reraise is fine. Your flop play depends if think villain is calling with midpair/naked draws.If he's a donk, it may not be that bad. Take into account you get owned by J a lot here.

Hand 5:
With no read I fold. Gutshot/straight, and wow I don't pot turn.

Hand 6:
Reraise pf. Flop is very read dependent. Its either top pair stacking off or an overpair, one of which you are beating. With no reads at 10NL I'd prolly look him up and see top pair/two overcards. At higher levels, I'd seriously be considering a fold.

Hand 7:
Fine.

Hand 8:
Give up on river. Betting two streets looks fine there.
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Old 03-28-2007, 09:07 PM
PwnSauce PwnSauce is offline
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Default Re: Major Downswing. Lots of hands, need lots of help.

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My take: You're playing like a total LAGtard. Works for a while, then people figure out what you're doing and pick good hands to stand up to you with.

Even top-pair, top kicker is a dangerous hand to hold at no-limit. It often loses when it gets big action. You're betting mediocre pairs and good draws like you've got trips or better, and you're not fooling anyone (anymore).

[/ QUOTE ]

ROFL LAGtard. Ya just stop shoving when you don't have the goods, it's 10 NL, get it in when you have an awesome hand. Don't try to be tricky or whatever or you'll end up getting called with bottom pair. Overpair on a drawy board, at 10 NL I've even just open shoved and got bottom pair calling and crap like that. (Do not try this at home)
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Old 03-28-2007, 09:38 PM
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Default Re: Major Downswing. Lots of hands, need lots of help.

10 NL owned me for a while because I was so much better than everyone that I kept trying to be tricky. The only "tricky" thing you can do is steal the blinds. Please play tighter.
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Old 03-28-2007, 11:22 PM
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Default Re: Major Downswing. Lots of hands, need lots of help.

This seems like you got bored of playing tag and wanted to loosen up, but you went WAY too far. Go back to ABC. The only tricky part of playing nl10 is knowing when to slowpay a hand, which is almost never.
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Old 03-28-2007, 11:45 PM
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Default Re: Major Downswing. Lots of hands, need lots of help.

Aggression will get you far... but this borders on silly. Yes, it is Lagtard play -- as some posters say. It does work, for a while. Players may have learned a bit how you play. Stay too long at any one table and they'll figure it out. Were you playing a longer session? Tilting a bit? Trying to play through "a bad stretch" by keeping to your style and attributing it to bad cards? Once the other players see you push AT on an A high flop, they'll label you and it'll stick. You'll get called thinner and thinner.

Running through your hands quickly, it didn't seem like you were certain enough of being ahead in any of them to push as hard as you did.

Your opponent's spoke to you about their strength and you didn't listen ... or tried hard to push them off what seemed to you to be marginally strong hands. Tricky doesn't work at this level.
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