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#13
03-21-2007, 12:27 PM
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Re: AKs ... is this a bad felt here
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I probably end up taking OP's line. However, after looking at it I think a flop check, push turn may be better. [/ QUOTE ] I dont' think he can chk the flop since BB leads into him... but call and push turn is good also. [ QUOTE ] Perhaps call the flop bets and see a turn. Use your positional advantage. [/ QUOTE ] This is tempting but a waste really (unless you plan on pushing turn)... given action there's a 99% chance that villian is going to bet turn... then what? fold? If you're going to see turn and fold to a bet, than you might as well fold the flop and if you fold this flop then you should've just folded PF. I think this is a WA/WB situation... 
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#14
03-21-2007, 12:35 PM
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Re: AKs ... is this a bad felt here
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I dont' think he can chk the flop since BB leads into him... but call and push turn is good also. [/ QUOTE ]That's what I meant
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#15
03-21-2007, 12:41 PM
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Re: AKs ... is this a bad felt here
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[ QUOTE ] I probably end up taking OP's line. However, after looking at it I think a flop check, push turn may be better. [/ QUOTE ] I dont' think he can chk the flop since BB leads into him... but call and push turn is good also. [ QUOTE ] Perhaps call the flop bets and see a turn. Use your positional advantage. [/ QUOTE ] This is tempting but a waste really (unless you plan on pushing turn)... given action there's a 99% chance that villian is going to bet turn... then what? fold? If you're going to see turn and fold to a bet, than you might as well fold the flop and if you fold this flop then you should've just folded PF. I think this is a WA/WB situation... [/ QUOTE ] This is pretty wrong advice here. Calling hte flop is keeping hte pot manageable. Its a pretty dry flop, and your villains will tip you off to as whether your hand is good or not on the turn. The reason position is the shizzle is the increased information you get from your opponents. How do you figure its a waste. I love TPTK more than anyone, but here we arent really sure if its good and we get more information that we can use by calling than raising. If the PFR leads again, muck it. If the PFR checks and shortie pushes, then I probably overpush. Its ok to call a bet in position to see a turn then fold.
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#16
03-21-2007, 12:50 PM
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Re: AKs ... is this a bad felt here
Small comment. I think you raised a bit too much preflop. I'd got with just 3xBB. Really nitty, but maybe that keeps the pot a little smaller and your $30 raise is onyl $20 and you can escape. Just seems like all the money got in pretty fast here and you're pretty much forced to call.
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#17
03-21-2007, 01:07 PM
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Re: AKs ... is this a bad felt here
I call BB flop bet, and see where this takes you with 1 more to act behind. Although this is discretionary I believe on this dry board that the button is folding most of the time here unless he has the nuts. Turn is where you have to reavaluate the BB push. Tough spot, but it is very possible to not shove all your chips here.
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#20
03-21-2007, 03:06 PM
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Re: AKs ... is this a bad felt here
I think what makes this hand most difficult is villain's weak looking PFR and flop raise; hard not raise that up. I think EMC is right though. The board is drawless and 3bets are typically a pretty narrow range, so we can afford to call the flop raise and see what villain does on the turn.
One question though: since he made a near min raise PF, should we have 4-bet him? Hopefully it would drive out the button, we would have position on BB, and could safely fold to an AI.
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