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Old 03-20-2007, 08:43 PM
TheHip41 TheHip41 is offline
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Default Re: *STATS* - Help! I dont want to be a losing player!!

win more at showdown.

also, it's 180BB over 10,000 hands. it happens.

If you continue to lose over thousands of hands, then maybe you have some problems.
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Old 03-20-2007, 10:08 PM
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Default Re: *STATS* - Help! I dont want to be a losing player!!

I get check raised a fair amount ... no more than I would imagine though.
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Old 03-20-2007, 10:11 PM
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I must admit I'll go for a check raise as often as possible and find alot of the time they'll fold to the raise. you suggesting it might be better just betting out the turn more often? obviously it's player dependant but against someone I think will bet the turn after raising preflop, I'll usually go for a ch-r in an attempt to get more bets in.
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Old 03-20-2007, 10:12 PM
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Default Re: *STATS* - Help! I dont want to be a losing player!!

Also, in viewing some of your recent hand-posts, you need to do a better job in at least classifying your opponents. One-size fits all post-flop play does not make for winning poker.
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Old 03-20-2007, 10:13 PM
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Am I seriously playing too tight in the blinds?
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Old 03-20-2007, 10:33 PM
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Since your last reply to me about not paying enough attention to what other players may have I've really started to give it more thought. However Im not so sure how to adjust my play towards different player types. I think thats something Im really lacking and consequently makes reading hands that much tougher. Take the PT stats for instance, if Im up against a player that has VP$IP 30%+ does that signify that he's a loose player? Whats considered a tight player in 6 max. 20 or below? Also with the pfr% .. what % of their hands must they be raising for them to be considered aggressive or is it based soley on their AF? If someone could give me a break down of what stats "generally" represent what kind of style somebody might be playing I think I could adjust myself to them more appropriately. I understand these stats are meant to taken as an indication and not supposed to be independently realied upon. however I feel that Im at a loose end as to what they mean right now and think I would really benifit from understanding them better.

Thanks for the responses so far also. Really do appreciate the advice.

Cheers guys!
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Old 03-20-2007, 11:45 PM
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Default Re: *STATS* - Help! I dont want to be a losing player!!

I find the most important categories to classify opponents begin with
1. Loose/Tight. Dont get too focused on exact numbers more get a feel for a continuum.
2. Passive/Aggressive
3. Tricky/Str8tforward

I find these to be the most important categories.

Secondary classifications include:
1. Defends blinds strongly/gives up easy
2. Steals alot/steals alittle
3. Donk bets good hands/ donk bet bluffs and donks weak hands
4. preflop play v. postflop play (some players are very passive preflop but aggressive postflop, others are loose/weak preflop but play better postflop, some are tight preflop but battle to the bitter end with AQ UI every time, etc)

Also don't think about the aggression numbers so much as getting a feel for what they mean and when aggression is used. These numbers can be very high for someone who plays raise or fold strategy or comparatively lower for someone who shows down alot sensing value in somewhat marginal hands.

Next time you play I would suggest taking notes on everybody at least for the first 3 categories I listed. This will lead to improved seat selection and better results. For a good read on this subject I would get the psychology of poker by alan schoonmaker(think i got his name right?).
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Old 03-21-2007, 03:30 AM
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Default Re: *STATS* - Help! I dont want to be a losing player!!

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Am I seriously playing too tight in the blinds?

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I think 60 plus is a little too high for sure but don't do anything drastic. I know proven winners who can have that figure at 20. Mine is high 30s and my coach is mid 30s.

On the flipside, many big winners are in the high 40s low 50s. It would definitely improve your game to defend more, but you would maybe lose more initially. It depends what you feel comfortable doing.
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