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Old 03-20-2007, 04:33 AM
74o_Clownsuit 74o_Clownsuit is offline
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Default KK with Not One, but TWO Aces on the Flop! *Play along*!

Hero should have a pretty normal tag/slag-omg-I-love-to-steal-on-co/bu-and-make-cbets image.

Villian is 25/9/1.9 and we have no real history IIRC.

Full Tilt Poker
$1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
4 Players
LegoPoker Hand Converter

<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
BTN: $153.60
SB: $182.3
BB: $68.15
Hero (UTG): $206

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K ($3, 4 players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $7</font>, BTN calls $7, SB folds, BB folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> A A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($17, 2 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $14</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $28</font>, Hero???
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Old 03-20-2007, 04:37 AM
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Default Re: KK with Not One, but TWO Aces on the Flop! *Play along*!

call
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Old 03-20-2007, 04:42 AM
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Default Re: KK with Not One, but TWO Aces on the Flop! *Play along*!

Gotta love one word responses. Boost that post count, yo!

Seriously, what are you putting this guy on? I think the minraise is random enough that we may see a stupid FD or 6 sometimes. But even then I'm not sure what to do on most turns after calling this raise OOP.
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Old 03-20-2007, 04:47 AM
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Default Re: KK with Not One, but TWO Aces on the Flop! *Play along*!

call and re-eval.
villans of this nature can do this with a wide range of hands including complete air. (donks like to bluff on paired flops) so i would call and re-evaluate.
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Old 03-20-2007, 04:54 AM
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Default Re: KK with Not One, but TWO Aces on the Flop! *Play along*!

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when raising and folding is silly, you call and see what happens on the turn
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Old 03-20-2007, 05:01 AM
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Default Re: KK with Not One, but TWO Aces on the Flop! *Play along*!

Ok so assuming we call (which I think is good by the way,) what to we do on the turn when he bets 30, and what to we do when he bets 50?
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Old 03-20-2007, 05:17 AM
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Default Re: KK with Not One, but TWO Aces on the Flop! *Play along*!

This is usually not any kind of made hand/draw except 66. I call down and expect to see air most of the time. Bet the river if he checks behind on the turn.
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Old 03-20-2007, 06:19 AM
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Default Re: KK with Not One, but TWO Aces on the Flop! *Play along*!

If villain does this is a lot, he can outplay us on turn. Calling defines our hand really well. I faced two similar situations yesterday and folded both on turn after facing aggression.

edit: Folded other on turn and other on river.
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Old 03-20-2007, 08:08 AM
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Default Re: KK with Not One, but TWO Aces on the Flop! *Play along*!

Call, this is very often FD or 6 I think. However, both of them should be scared of a CR on the turn, so unless he has an A, I would expect him to check the turn. If he bets, fairly ez fold.
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Old 03-20-2007, 08:28 AM
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Default Re: KK with Not One, but TWO Aces on the Flop! *Play along*!

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If villain does this is a lot, he can outplay us on turn. Calling defines our hand really well. I faced two similar situations yesterday and folded both on turn after facing aggression.



edit: Folded other on turn and other on river.

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i dont agree that with calling your hand is defined, from villain perspective, by calling you could have an A also, if the flush doesnt fill you can bet out and take the pot on the turn. if you get reraised, its an easy fold.
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