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Old 03-12-2007, 04:42 PM
Spaggy Spaggy is offline
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Default Serious ?- I\'m beating .5/1 and 1/2 NL online, but spew at micros. Why

Alright, let me preface this by making it clear online is more of just a fun way of donking around at home for me (I'm a solid winning live player at 1/2 and 2/5 NL), and I've never made much money online (probably lost quite a bit actually). Also, feel free to flame away at how easy 1/2 and 2/5 are live - I know.

So, I started playing online doing only SNGs, with limited success (ran hot at first, then dropped off, now am maybe break even), and would occassionally dabble in the cash games. I played micro stakes, since I've read online is 10x more difficult than live at the stakes I can crush at casinos. Long story short, I f'n sucked. I can't seem to beat the low ass .01/.02, .02/.05, and .05/.10 games on stars no matter how seriously I took them (pathetic, I know).

So, just for [censored] and giggles this Friday (and while on a purple football shaped pill that makes me care about very few things), I put enough money on stars for 5 $40 buyins for .5/1 and 1/2 NL, and to me these games are WAY easier than the micros. I turned the $200 into $475, withdrew $400, and am back up to $225 as of now in about 8-12 hours of one/two tabling. My sample size is still limited (but growing), but so far I've been able to beat these games without putting in much thought, having my reads actually be quite accurate, and simply playing a solid aggressive style (tighter than a LAG, but not harrington-tight). I definitely haven't been running hot either, and haven't been sucking out left and right.

So for you poor people who just read this, why would I have an easier time beating a theoretically tougher/more advanced game? I'm not in the belief of "people respect my raises" and that garbage, but it just seems like the players are better and their logic is easier to decode.

Is there anybody else on here that thinks the small stakes games are easier than the micro stakes, and if so, why?

I expect about 95% of the reponses to be flames, so please don't hold back. I love getting 2p2 flamed. I will transfer $5 to the best flame I get on this thread, since that's what this site is known for and if get one honest/genuine/helpful reponse I'll be amazed.
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Old 03-12-2007, 04:46 PM
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Default Re: Serious ?- I\'m beating .5/1 and 1/2 NL online, but spew at micros. Why

wayyyyyyyy tldr, but if youre beating 1/2 wtf are you playing micros? also, wtf do you care if youre spewing 1/20th of a buy-in
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Old 03-12-2007, 04:49 PM
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Default Re: Serious ?- I\'m beating .5/1 and 1/2 NL online, but spew at micros.

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but it just seems like the players are better and their logic is easier to decode.

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When the players are worse, you don't have to decode anything. If they are bad enough that their play doesn't makes sense, all you have to do is

"Bad hand, I fold"
"Good hand, I bet"
"ooga booga"
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Old 03-12-2007, 04:54 PM
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Default Re: Serious ?- I\'m beating .5/1 and 1/2 NL online, but spew at micros.

your running hotter then my mom on a saturday night.
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Old 03-12-2007, 04:59 PM
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Default Re: Serious ?- I\'m beating .5/1 and 1/2 NL online, but spew at micros.

I agree but I dont know how many others do, I ran bad recently and really dont wanna drop to NL50 cause Micro stakes is pretty nubtastic and I do worse vs those type of players aswell.
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Old 03-12-2007, 05:11 PM
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Default Re: Serious ?- I\'m beating .5/1 and 1/2 NL online, but spew at micros.

i'll pay you $100 to sit full stacked at 4 tables for an hour with me at 2/4
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Old 03-12-2007, 05:12 PM
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Default Re: Serious ?- I\'m beating .5/1 and 1/2 NL online, but spew at micros.

you'll be broke soon
im not joking either
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Old 03-12-2007, 05:12 PM
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Default Re: Serious ?- I\'m beating .5/1 and 1/2 NL online, but spew at micros.

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your running hotter then my mom on a saturday night.

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this sounds bad
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Old 03-12-2007, 05:43 PM
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Default Re: Serious ?- I\'m beating .5/1 and 1/2 NL online, but spew at micros.

Let me address these responses one by one:

"wayyyyyyyy tldr, but if youre beating 1/2 wtf are you playing micros? also, wtf do you care if youre spewing 1/20th of a buy-in"

- I don't know what tldr means (I'm assuming something to do with too detailed/boring), but it's not about the money. It's about the game itself and that I am curious as to why I have an easier time beating betting players with more experience than poor-ass idiots who seem to be drunk/high/coked up most of the time. Plus, I thought the proper way to advance in skill was to utilize BR management and start with the baby games and progress level by level.

PBJaxx - I agree entirely - I'm probably remembering more of the absurd suckouts than victories (as is the way our selective memory works), and that's the approach I take to the micros).

GittyUP - I'm not running hot (or any hotter than usual). My hands hold up about as often as they should, and my reads and recognition of specific plays I've read about seem to work at these levels.

RONitONLINE - i agree - the microstakes are just a crapshoot - i play ABC poker when i dick around in them and still somehow manage to get outdrawn or can't bet people off draws.

SIDE NOTE - I've probably only played 1000-2000 hands at the micro level, so the sample size is small here as well

tufat23 - So you want to go 4 tables, $400 buy-in, plus a $100 cash to me? PM me.

SDFSDF

You're the kind of person that makes this board 90% worthless and useless to people trying to learn the game or ask serious questions.

I make a lot of money in the real world at a real job doing things for a real company that i enjoy doing - interacting with real people I actually meet/see/talk to outside of AIM and a computer desk. As jealous as I am of you probably weighing 250+, making m@d m0ni3$ playing online poker, and thinking you're the $hit - the cash I put into stars is for fun. It's not a matter of whether I win $2 in a micro game or a couple hundred bucks in 1/2. I'm making six figures at 22 (not a brag, I'm sure I'm far less baller than a lot of people on here), but to respond to your statement - I won't be going broke any time soon. OMG, I MIGHT BE POKERSTATS BUSTO soon if you're right, but will I care after the second my final hand is dealt? Nope

Are there any people like me left that still look at poker as a battle of wits? I see it as a badass combination of math, psychology, and acting. It's all about the game to me - I consider it a challenge, like chess, basketball, football or anything that encourages competition. Every time I get outplayed by somebody, or they out level me, I get upset about that - not the money.

Continue flaming please, or God forbid, if somebody wants to give any sort of serious reply or insight to this discussion, I'd be amazed.

let me address each "point" one by one -

you'll be broke soon
im not joking either


As for the complete lack of any serious answers, I got exactly what I expected (a bunch of cocky 2p2's telling me I'm an idiot or using the legendary condescending tone that this site is famous for).
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Old 03-12-2007, 05:45 PM
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Default Re: Serious ?- I\'m beating .5/1 and 1/2 NL online, but spew at micros.

if i say u will be broke, will u also write an essay for me too??
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