Killing off the little guy (this time it's internet radio)

[Nielsio]

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The RIAA (an entirely private group) is asking permission of government to do something it COULD DO ANYWAY under the free market.

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How would they do it.

[MelchyBeau]

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The RIAA (an entirely private group) is asking permission of government to do something it COULD DO ANYWAY under the free market.

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How would they do it.

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By saying "hey if you want to us our product this is what you are going to have to pay us"

[Phil153]

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The RIAA (an entirely private group) is asking permission of government to do something it COULD DO ANYWAY under the free market.

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How would they do it.

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If you don't believe in private property and intellectual property laws under AC, then disregard my comment. I was under the impression that ACists did, but perhaps I'm mistaken. If you do, I don't understand the question.

[Skidoo]

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How exactly is this a government specific problem? How exactly is this problem solved under AC again?

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no government, no one to lobby

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No government, no NEED to lobby. The predators just go straight in for the kill.

[AngusThermopyle]

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The RIAA (an entirely private group) is asking permission of government to do something it COULD DO ANYWAY under the free market.

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How would they do it.

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Privatized "enforcement division"?

[shakingspear]

I think it should be pointed out that internet radio stations are already required to pay royalties. This is just a major increase.

[WillMagic]

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Will,

Please think very carefully about this issue before responding again.

If private property and copyright laws exist under AC, and ACers claim they will and must, then your posts completely miss the point.

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I reject the bolded part of the claim. I don't think intellectual property and copyrights will stand up in an AC world, because I think they are way too expensive to enforce if you can't externalize the costs of enforcement on to other people (in this case taxpayers.) Fundamentally music and other intellectualy property is not scarce, and thus cannot fall under property rights.

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The government is not passing laws here that are crippling internet radio. It is ALLOWING something to happen that would happen anyway if the market was free. There are no laws stopping a private studio from selling its music to the small radio station at whatever pricing scheme it likes. The RIAA (an entirely private group) is asking permission of government to do something it COULD DO ANYWAY under the free market.

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Not sure I have to respond to this part once we've cleared up my position, but anyway, the RIAA could say "we are owed royalties from internet radio" in a free market, but they could not enforce it. They need government to pass legislation making it illegal so that they can use the tools of government power to prosecute nonviolent, noncoercive offenders.

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Please put some thought into your trollish FYPs, so that we can elevate the level of discourse. It will also help to stop you from looking like a clown.

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Purple monkey dishwasher.

[Skidoo]

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the RIAA could say "we are owed royalties from internet radio" in a free market, but they could not enforce it. They need government to pass legislation making it illegal so that they can use the tools of government power to prosecute nonviolent, noncoercive offenders.

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Tort claims are unenforceable in AC?

[WillMagic]

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the RIAA could say "we are owed royalties from internet radio" in a free market, but they could not enforce it. They need government to pass legislation making it illegal so that they can use the tools of government power to prosecute nonviolent, noncoercive offenders.

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Tort claims are unenforceable in AC?

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Under my interpretation intellectual property doesn't exist, so "violating" it cannot be a tort. Thus it falls into the same category as drug prohibition and prohibitions on sexual activity, things which would be similarly unenforceable (I should say extremely hard, and expensive, because hey, it's AC and people can do what they want.)

[AzDesertRat]

Too bad the MPAA and RIAA have changed the "fair use" standards and now have to resort to extortion and blackmail. I think they are trying to force everyone towards piracy, because they want to control the content on the web. They will start crying on how much money they have lost due to piracy and stop from admitting that they are putting out inferior products.

DRM will be either the death of the RIAA or the whole industry---remember Sony's attempt to protect its music last year.