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#12
03-05-2007, 01:09 AM
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Re: The Doug Show
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[ QUOTE ] I like the pre-flop 3-bet, but I think the flop is an easy check-fold. When you have a crazy image you make money by bluffing less and value betting the blood out of your opponents. Betting the turn is spewage. The only way a bet would make sense is if you knew that anyone with a pair: (a) did not also have a diamond draw; and (b) had players left to act after you bet. [/ QUOTE ] I"m sorry, I can't agree I bet this again. We 3-bet preflop representing strength, we bet the flop with no resistant as far as I can tell noone has diamonds or a pair high enough to profitably call this turn. I feel we take this pot down often enough with a bet to justify it Anyone agree? [/ QUOTE ] I can't agree. He has a maniac image right now. The way to make money against a maniac is check and call. Let him bluff his money away. Don't bet or raise to slow him down. If I'm one of your opponents I just let you bet and I call all the way if I have anything. In fact, if I were UTG after witnessing your actions of the last several hands I'd have probably limped with AA. 
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#13
03-05-2007, 01:14 AM
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Re: The Doug Show
One's image is never as bad as one thinks. Also, people tend to play THEIR cards. not yours. I've played with maniacal Doug. He can't hide the fact that he is a thinking intelligent player. It's as obvious as his hair is white. I'd never ask any player to fold top pair. But I would ask them to fold their untripped PP below a 9 on this board. With the pot this size, I think it is worth at least asking.
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#15
03-05-2007, 01:25 AM
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Re: The Doug Show
no. youre thinking of online where people can easily be 12/8 or whatever. those players simply dont exist live, everyone loosens up. AQ just has to be reraised here almost all situations.
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#17
03-05-2007, 02:03 AM
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Re: The Doug Show
I'd just check here. Looks like you're getting 9:1 on this bet. Sure you'll get called and still win the pot sometimes(or still be ahead), so say you need to win it with this bet 10 or 11 times in 1 and I just think it's too much of a parlay.
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#18
03-05-2007, 02:06 AM
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Re: The Doug Show
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yeah, I bet again. You get low pps to give up and once they do, you're winning they hand. You've got no reason to believe someone has a jack, nor do you have any reason to believe they have a [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Quit thinking so hard and bet. [/ QUOTE ] The two guys behind him are never folding a pair or a diamond. The original raiser might, but only if he has to overcall.
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#19
03-05-2007, 02:10 AM
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Re: The Doug Show
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[ QUOTE ] yeah, I bet again. You get low pps to give up and once they do, you're winning they hand. You've got no reason to believe someone has a jack, nor do you have any reason to believe they have a [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Quit thinking so hard and bet. [/ QUOTE ] The two guys behind him are never folding a pair or a diamond. The original raiser might, but only if he has to overcall. [/ QUOTE ] I agree. I have been in this situation too many times to believe otherwise.
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#20
03-05-2007, 05:48 AM
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Re: The Doug Show
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no. youre thinking of online where people can easily be 12/8 or whatever. those players simply dont exist live, everyone loosens up. AQ just has to be reraised here almost all situations. [/ QUOTE ] there's plenty of live players who will only raise AA-QQ. in any position. (they don't play in california) but yeah, not 3-betting here would suck.
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