I fold in big pot for 1 last bet

[W. Deranged]

My only concern here is the sample size on villain... 30 hands isn't enough for me to be that confident about anything...

But there is a level on which I find that river fold tremendously sexy...

[kidcolin]

Alright. I can respect that. I misunderstood your initial post. I agree. I made this play based more on how I percieved him in the half hour of play than on the stats, thus the stats were useless. My b.

I made this post to see how many "don't fold for one bet in big pots" replies there would be. I think a lot of us (myself included) tend to make river decisions in a vacuum. "13:1 I call". Putting all the pieces together (the strength I've shown, my feelings of the opponents, street by street action) I really didn't like those odds. If the hand had gone "bet flop, bet turn, bet river" and then I got raised, I would've called.

You hear people say "folding in a pot this big is disasterous", and it really isn't, given the information. Maybe it's 0EV or slightly -EV, but it's not a huge error.

[SlantNGo]

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There`s people who play KK like this.

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Exactly what I was going to say. You'll get shown something worse here often enough.

[vinnox]

I call and make a note on him. Folding might be better EV-wise but I think knowing exactly what he's doing that with will pay off in the session.

[RunDownHouse]

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Putting all the pieces together (the strength I've shown, my feelings of the opponents, street by street action) I really didn't like those odds. If the hand had gone "bet flop, bet turn, bet river" and then I got raised, I would've called.

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Like I said earlier, this fold says he (nearly) never raises a bare Q here, and I just don't buy that.

I agree with you that its close, though.

[ssmallz]

I think this is a fine fold. This board is way to scary for him to raise naked Q on and risk getting 3 bet by a better hand. Your AA is likely beat and I think you made the right call by folding.

[colgin]

I call.

I could see a fairly unknown villain playing QT this way. Assuming that villain will always raise QJ here, you need to heavily discount his willingness to raise just top pair here to justify a fold given the potodds you are getting.

[markbrifman]

I don't know what the experts here will say, but you have to be right only one time in 12 for the call to be correct. Were you that sure you had lost?

[kidcolin]

*sigh.. have you even read the thread?

[Guruman]

I'll bet he has KT.

I fold this and then call the next time. Even total passive fish tend to start taking shots at me when I pull stuff like this.