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Old 03-01-2007, 05:33 AM
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My right to not be monitored and ticketed through a camera.

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Where does such a "right" come from? I'm quite sure the courts have ruled that you have very little expectation of privacy in public.

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sounds like slave speak to me.

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Now that's funny! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 03-01-2007, 05:40 AM
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Some may find it a distraction on the road. I think it is often safer to be driving 5-10 mph faster than the speed limit. Also the they are just white Astro vans that they park on the sidewalk in random spots on different days.

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Yes, you may think so, like most morans!
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Old 03-01-2007, 06:42 AM
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Getting rid of publicly funded roads and letting the free market do it's thing is sounding better now isn't it?
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Old 03-01-2007, 06:49 AM
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If this is oppressive, why aren't speed limits and traffic lights oppressive?

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It's all a matter of degree and where you draw the line is always going to arbitrary and subjective. Which is why people shouldn't be forced to fund it if it doesn't adhere to their opinion of what it should be.

On the other hand if we left it up to private companys to create private roads they would be able to most accurately measure driver's preferences because they have to in order to maximize profit.

Obviously I know you know this, just writing it for those that may support the quoted statement who may not have heard it. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 03-01-2007, 07:35 AM
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For some reason I feel this is a extreme violation of rights. We as tax payers pay for the roads and I feel that cops should not be able ticket citizens by posting up cameras in unsuspecting areas. I was wondering why as tax payers we do not get to Vote and decide whether or not we want cameras enforcing speed?

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What specific right are they violating? Your right to speed?

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his right to freedom from opression and his right to be treated as more than a entity to tax.

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If this is oppressive, why aren't speed limits and traffic lights oppressive?

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I guess you enjoy being taxed by speed limit tickets while driving safely and not endangering anyone. Not everyone shares this view.
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Old 03-01-2007, 08:56 AM
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...while driving safely and not endangering anyone...

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yes, exactly... probably very authoritative and scientific or statistically based comment. In all honesty, I think you are a moran too.
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Old 03-01-2007, 10:04 AM
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Getting rid of publicly funded roads and letting the free market do it's thing is sounding better now isn't it?

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Aren't you the guy who consistently complains about ACers being wrongfully accused of hijacking threads?
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Old 03-01-2007, 11:18 AM
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I guess you enjoy being taxed by speed limit tickets while driving safely and not endangering anyone. Not everyone shares this view.

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The driver does not own the road, so he has no expectation of freedom there.

Now, of course, the state distorts (to put it mildly) the market for road provision. Further, the state does not *legitimately* own the road in the first place (since states cannot legitimately own property at all).
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Old 03-01-2007, 11:35 AM
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Three years ago, he was headed down Booksin Avenue going 35 mph in a 25 zone.

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But Luebkeman isn't an ordinary motorist. He had been a traffic lieutenant in the Santa Clara Police Department, and he knew that only cops can issue speeding tickets.



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So next time I get caught doing 35 in a 25 zone by some Santa Clara cop ...
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Old 03-01-2007, 12:48 PM
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Getting rid of publicly funded roads and letting the free market do it's thing is sounding better now isn't it?

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Because there's nothing stopping the private owner of a road from taking your picture from a van and issuing you a citation if he deems your driving inappropriate. Yep. Privatization fixes everything.
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