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#81
02-28-2007, 02:28 AM
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i dunno stuey. try making my argument w/o equivocating. i dont think youll be able to massage your way out of it. find a 68 yr old kkk grand wizard and tell him you think blacks are humans equal to whites and should be able to intermarry. [/ QUOTE ] Equivocate 1 : to use equivocal language especially with intent to deceive 2 : to avoid committing oneself in what one says I had to look it up. I agree with you there is no need to deceive or to avoid committing yourself to what you say. El Sapo sounded very intelligent in his posts you sound angry. I am not sure you are angry but understand people get that vibe from you. Dumb people or people with vested interests in this topic will react back at you with anger you are too smart not to know that. I thought you censor your view because people want to fist fight over it. I did not know you censor your view because you would only be satisfied if you changed peoples' minds. I can tell the KKK guy my view and he won't attack me. He won't change his mind either because he can't he is stuck. My telling him my view is not a waste however. Well I don't feel it is a waste I am worried you do though. 
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#82
02-28-2007, 02:36 AM
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Whenever anyone is talking about our soliders, our young boys, our (18-40 year old)children... it always brings out a bunch of PC ideas inhereited from the boob tube and politition's mouths.
The moment someone says that they think the war is wrong, they must immediately clarify that they support the troops. Honestly, I dont even know what the hell it means when someone says "I support the troops, but not what they are doing in Iraq". That is like when someone says "I like you Limon, but your ideas are wrong", wtf does one thing have to do with another, except the fact that you are just being polite? I dont hold them responsible for the governments policies, but I really dont have much pity for them because they choose to join the armed forces: Q. What do the armed forces do for a living? A. THEY GO TO WAR AND DIE. Liberals constantly insist on shouting "will someone please think of the children", these guys arent children. Please stop calling them our children, our young boys, etc. There is no draft, Iraq is not Vietnam.
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#83
02-28-2007, 02:39 AM
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"I find it very hard to express that stuff correctly to a ton of people, especially on the internet, so I don't bother."
Hey, this is the El Diablo Forum of above average intelligence. Dicuss away!
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#84
02-28-2007, 02:44 AM
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[ QUOTE ] So, I support the troops inasmuch that I support people not dying even if they made some bad decisions to be there. [/ QUOTE ] so that means you support the people our troops are fighting too, right? [/ QUOTE ] nh. I think what people mean to say is "i disagree with the War in Iraq and I pity the soliders". Certainly, supporting the confused mislead Iraqi soliders would be an act of treason.
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#85
02-28-2007, 02:46 AM
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"I thought you censor your view because people want to fist fight over it. I did not know you censor your view because you know you can't change peoples' minds.
I can tell the KKK guy my view and he won't attack me. He won't change his mind either because he can't he is stuck. My telling him my view is not a waste however. Well I don't feel it is a waste I am worried you do though." we dont agree here. i think the kkk guy WILL try to punch you. i know this from experience. if i have no fear of fisticuffs i will argue anything if i feel i have something to gain. (btw i dont fear a fight but it needs to be the only solution to a threatening situation)the main reason i dont argue is becuase i know my opponent is wrong and wont bet. i hate to let someone be wrong for free. time is money. i waste time on this forum because im bored, drunk (2000 chateau loeville poyferre...tight as a nuns as.shole)and feel i owe posts to a forum i asked for. also im not angry i just hat to type.
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#86
02-28-2007, 02:51 AM
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fwiw, i have sometimes considered joining the marines because i think it would be cool to kill people for a living and blow [censored] up. i imagine that many of the marines who did join, did so along those lines, not because they wanted to make the world a safer and better place and god bless america and all of that nonsense.
fwiw, i think people who are willing to go to war are very interesting and i would love for someone in iraq to do an "ask me about iraq thread", but when some dude gets court marshalled because he thinks the iraq war is unjust - I tend to think that he wanted all of that free education money and scholarships and acclaim, but now when push comes to shove he doesnt want to meet his end of the agreement. Tough titty.
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#87
02-28-2007, 03:16 AM
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i imagine that many of the marines who did join, did so along those lines, not because they wanted to make the world a safer and better place and god bless america and all of that nonsense. [/ QUOTE ] yes. and they fight for their buddy next to them and not for coward war profiteers like bush/cheney. but this is not an excuse to kill 500,000 civilians w/ 4,000,000 next of kin who will seek vengeance for a generation. RANT ALERT: if i lived in kansas city i might not care much but i live in l.a. w/ a bullseye on my chest. its an example of blue staters (simplification)paying for the sins of redstaters (simplification). its easy to kill "ragheads" when youll never even visit manhattan. the red states have, as rumsfeld would say, no legitimate targets. i find funny how people from the armpit st. louis (ive been there), while panning "evil"ution will criticize "san francisco values" maybe some of these bloated pasty freaks should visit san francisco and see it is one of the greatest cities in the world. food, culture, commerce second to none. do flyover people ever wonder why california is the 5th largest economy in the world? with all our h.omos, pacifists and scientists. it gets heavy carrying water for all these morons. END RANT. (bordeuax is goooood)
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#88
02-28-2007, 03:42 AM
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This is tough to admit, but deep within me I believe that white people are fantastic drivers. I don't want to believe it, I'm ashamed that I believe it, but Jesus Christ, it is the White Man's Burden to teach me and my kind how to drive [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] We all have cultural and ethnic stereotypes, some of which are embarrassing. One of the harmless ones I have are that Filipino women are fierce. [/ QUOTE ] You sir are a racist! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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#89
02-28-2007, 03:45 AM
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[ QUOTE ] This is tough to admit, but deep within me I believe that white people are fantastic drivers. I don't want to believe it, I'm ashamed that I believe it, but Jesus Christ, it is the White Man's Burden to teach me and my kind how to drive [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] We all have cultural and ethnic stereotypes, some of which are embarrassing. One of the harmless ones I have are that Filipino women are fierce. [/ QUOTE ] You sir are a racist! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] can we ban emoticons on edf? my threads at least?!?
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#90
02-28-2007, 03:46 AM
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"but this is not an excuse to kill 500,000 civilians w/ 4,000,000 next of kin who will seek vengeance for a generation."
so you are saying each marine has an individual responsibility to decide if his actions are correct and for the overall good of the human race? it seems impossible to run an armed forces with this mentality, however it is the exact reason i would never join. i find it hard to hold individual marines to these terms, and i place the blame on the government. btw, slightly off topic but such a great quote from Lord of War: "the earliest human beings were found with spears in their heads"
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