Daniel N. lacks pure poker skills?

[J_V]

I think its unclear whether he can win in the big game. My guess would be probably not, depending on game selection and such. Mainly cause he's a tilt monkey and doesn't seem to want to admit that.

But I think the longer he played the better he would get, he's a very adept poker player and adapts well and has a good understanding of most of the games from what I have heard.

However, I was talking about No Limit holdem and he cannot beat decent player playing no limit holdem.

[Peter McDermott]

I think that one of the most interesting things about Daniel is the way that he has an enormous online fan-boi community. You'll find no shortage of posters on here who respect players like Brunson or Greenstein or whoever, but the idea of any of those players hosting a little community where they interact with their fans seems inconceivable to me.

So I wonder whether the reason Daniel attaches so much criticism is because he seems, in some sense, to lack the qualities that we associate with a poker player -- independence, diffidence, etc. because he wants too much to be liked by his percieved fan base.

For me, this tendency to seek public attention or approval is one of his most irritating characteristics. I'm pretty sure that I'd like the old drunken, mouthing-off, skank-calling Daniel more than I like the modern, well-scrubbed, media-savvy player.

Of course, I'm sure he doesn't give a [censored] about people like me. He's aiming his schtick at being a personality that will be loved by the American heartlands.

[SplawnDarts]

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I think its unclear whether he can win in the big game. My guess would be probably not, despite the fact that he has done so up to this point.


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FYP, O RLY? etc...

[Glenn]

DN has accumulated a huge amount of money from endorsements and marketing himself . It sure as hell wasn't on the golf course. That money came convincing people he is a celebrity through smart business decisions . So it's pretty hard to take seriously anyone who claims he doesn't sell himself well.

[mattnxtc]

It is humorous that all of yall seem so certain of what his winnings are in teh big game.

If he sat in a big game now i doubt he would do good b/c just as with lederer and hellmuth he chose to go after the guaranteed money that comes from sponsors and tv and what not...so what...be happy that he can be one of the images of poker since he is a clean cut christian guy that poker can promote.

Could he handle teh big game against the new young guns? probably not..But im sure with time he coudl be competant in the game if he put the effort into it..just as with a lot of the pros.

I think orlando has gone off the deep in though

[Orlando Salazar]

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I think that one of the most interesting things about Daniel is the way that he has an enormous online fan-boi community. You'll find no shortage of posters on here who respect ...

Of course, I'm sure he doesn't give a [censored] about people like me. He's aiming his schtick at being a personality that will be loved by the American heartlands.

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QFT

[SplawnDarts]

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DN has accumulated a huge amount of money from endorsements and marketing himself . It sure as hell wasn't on the golf course. That money came convincing people he is a celebrity through smart business decisions . So it's pretty hard to take seriously anyone who claims he doesn't sell himself well.

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This is ridiculous. DN has millions upon millions of well documented cash game and tournament wins. Things that happened in public places, and on TV. Then people take two comparatively minor $million losses, and claim he hasn't been successful - losses that represent maybe a 3 buyin downswing at the limits in question. It's absurd to suggest that he hasn't made substantial money playing poker.

[Dids]

OK.

Orlando and people that hate Orlando, stop making this thread horrible.

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[bernie]

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OK.

Orlando and people that hate Orlando, stop making this thread horrible.



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The thread was horrible from the initial post.

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[NicksDad1970]

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he's an admitted loser in the big game.

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I'm pretty sure this isn't true. DN at least claims to be a lifetime winner in the big game, even after losing >$1 million in his last session.

I love how so many people on this board draw conclusions about Daniel's skills as a poker player based on two days of play on HSP, instead of the ~100 days of tournament poker he plays every year. Because clearly no world-class player could ever lose two days in a row.

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I remember it this way as well.

IIRC DN had a blog stating he was over 1 million ahead. After people argued that DN could make up whatever he wanted DN said something like why would I publicly talk about being up a million knowing he had to pay taxes on it etc.

Then a few months later DN said he lost near 1 million in the big game.

I doubt any of us will ever know how they all do in the big game. Ifnothing else DN has shown to be very honest.