OT: [censored] thread, Feb, READ RULES IN TOP POST

[Misfire]

he busted early... think he might be from ITH

[bigt439]

i just finished reading 'the corporation' and i have to say i am extremely disappointed. what could have been an interesting discussion of economic theory fueled by reasonable arguments is cheapened by the constant use of misdirection and logical fallacies. i am more conservative than most and obviously much more right wing than the author, but i pride myself on being able to keep an open mind and was actually looking quite forward to reading this. it seems as though the author is trying to appeal to the portion of the population who likes to be told what to think and in my opinion amounts to little more than a socialist call to arms. it especially frustrates me because i know that a ton of people who don't often think for themselves will read this book and say "damn, he's right, down with corporations" when all that has been presented is a painfully one-sided logical mess. at least it will be easy to write a paper about this. i think i have hilighted around 100 lines and passages that have no place in the book; i could tear this thing apart for days.

[AMT]

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i just finished reading 'the corporation' and i have to say i am extremely disappointed. what could have been an interesting discussion of economic theory fueled by reasonable arguments is cheapened by the constant use of misdirection and logical fallacies. i am more conservative than most and obviously much more right wing than the author, but i pride myself on being able to keep an open mind and was actually looking quite forward to reading this. it seems as though the author is trying to appeal to the portion of the population who likes to be told what to think and in my opinion amounts to little more than a socialist call to arms. it especially frustrates me because i know that a ton of people who don't often think for themselves will read this book and say "damn, he's right, down with corporations" when all that has been presented is a painfully one-sided logical mess. at least it will be easy to write a paper about this. i think i have hilighted around 100 lines and passages that have no place in the book; i could tear this thing apart for days.

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if youre not stoned when writing this you wont get an A. Trust me, i havent read the book and i can tell by your descriptions that this is the successful path. follow my lead my son, follow....

[Misfire]

If you're writing a paper on this, be sure to concede at least some points to the author, otherwise you look like the one-sided, closed minded partisan you're criticizing (especially if your prof is a pinko).

[vm1124]

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lol @ sharkscope stats for elky. Last time I checked he was only down 50k now its 108k!

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But somehow how he is ranked #1 in stakes $100-300 avg profit leaderboard and at the top of many other category leaderboards including total profit. does anyone know how this is possible?

[AMT]

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If you're writing a paper on this, be sure to concede at least some points to the author, otherwise you look like the one-sided, closed minded partisan you're criticizing (especially if your prof is a pinko).

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this is actually a very good subtle paper writing tactic that helps to prove your point. i would include this to some extent throughout the paper.

[bigt439]

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If you're writing a paper on this, be sure to concede at least some points to the author, otherwise you look like the one-sided, closed minded partisan you're criticizing (especially if your prof is a pinko).

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oh yeh obviously i will, and i wont use the same sort of tone, or for that matter, pretty much anything from my post...

but i just put the book down before i wrote that and needed to tell someone what a piece of [censored] it was...

[xPeru]

You might add that virtually all tax income comes from corporations. Employees pay taxes from the salaries that are paid to them out of corporation earnings. Govt employees pay taxes on money that is paid to them out of the taxes paid by corporations. If taxes provide a social good, corporations are the source of that good.

Wow properly OT.

[Gramps]

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i just finished reading 'the corporation' and i have to say i am extremely disappointed. what could have been an interesting discussion of economic theory fueled by reasonable arguments is cheapened by the constant use of misdirection and logical fallacies. i am more conservative than most and obviously much more right wing than the author, but i pride myself on being able to keep an open mind and was actually looking quite forward to reading this. it seems as though the author is trying to appeal to the portion of the population who likes to be told what to think and in my opinion amounts to little more than a socialist call to arms. it especially frustrates me because i know that a ton of people who don't often think for themselves will read this book and say "damn, he's right, down with corporations" when all that has been presented is a painfully one-sided logical mess. at least it will be easy to write a paper about this. i think i have hilighted around 100 lines and passages that have no place in the book; i could tear this thing apart for days.

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Somebody's gotta put some theories out there to inspire future college-know-it-all hippies and the like. For authors like this one, it can also be a lucrative profession in concert with large corporate book-publishing companies...so as long as people are buying the books and making the corporations money in their hate of corporations, the corporations are happy, the "I-need-something-to-rally-aginast-to-give-me-identity" people are happy, the authors playing both sides of the fence are happy - why ya gotta go hating and messing this perfect symbiotic relationship up?

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[bigt439]

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i just finished reading 'the corporation' and i have to say i am extremely disappointed. what could have been an interesting discussion of economic theory fueled by reasonable arguments is cheapened by the constant use of misdirection and logical fallacies. i am more conservative than most and obviously much more right wing than the author, but i pride myself on being able to keep an open mind and was actually looking quite forward to reading this. it seems as though the author is trying to appeal to the portion of the population who likes to be told what to think and in my opinion amounts to little more than a socialist call to arms. it especially frustrates me because i know that a ton of people who don't often think for themselves will read this book and say "damn, he's right, down with corporations" when all that has been presented is a painfully one-sided logical mess. at least it will be easy to write a paper about this. i think i have hilighted around 100 lines and passages that have no place in the book; i could tear this thing apart for days.

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Somebody's gotta put some theories out there to inspire future college-know-it-all hippies and the like. For authors like this one, it can also be a lucrative profession in concert with large corporate book-publishing companies...so as long as people are buying the books and making the corporations money in their hate of corporations, the corporations are happy, the "I-need-something-to-rally-aginast-to-give-me-identity" people are happy, the authors playing both sides of the fence are happy - why ya gotta go hating and messing this perfect symbiotic relationship up?

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yeh this is actually what i'm basing my 'theses' around; i use the word loosely because this is more of a report and less of a position paper.

what im essentially going to get at is that the book itself is somewhat paradoxical. on one hand, it's really a piece of [censored], however, i think it's so bad because it so over the top and does a very poor job of intelligently articulating it's points. unfortunately, a less eccentric and more theoretical book would not be nearly as appealing to the public. this is so important because the book itself actually will probably do quite a good job at inspiring the type of reform that we DO need. imo (i should use that acronym in my paper), government regulation is currently sufficient if it is properly supplemented by societal pressure which inherently increases the value of firms to be socially and environmentally responsible as the more people react to these issues the more it will impact their bottom line. this book will actually increase general awareness about these issues and contribute to fueling the societal pressure i mentioned above. it will, however, only do this to an extent. i don't imagine many people will fully buy into the author's opinion because it is basically a communist manifesto, however, i think these people will meet the author somewhere in the middle, which is actually what we really need.

in light of that, i dont know, maybe he's a genius, but more than likely he's just some shmuck trying to make a ton of money from a corporation. i think the fact that this book made him a fortune is absolutely amazing. im sure he donated it to social reform.