Where to find details on the craps/blackjack in Vegas?

snoopdarr · #1 02-14-2006, 07:55 PM

I'm interested in a single reliable source on the craps+blackjack conditions in Vegas. Basically, what casinos offer 10x odds on craps?

I've read Strip Blackjack is unplayable. What blackjack IS playable? (I already know to avoid 6:5 like the plague)

Jimbo · #2 02-14-2006, 10:24 PM

The srtio craps tables are all pretty much 3X 4X 5X odds. Go downtown to get 10X odds. However the MGM does count your odds towards your comp rating.

Jimbo

playersare · #3 02-15-2006, 12:37 AM

strip blackjack is ok but make sure you have the following rules:

6 decks
blackjack pays 3:2
dealer stands on soft 17
split up to 3 times (including aces)
double after splitting allowed
late surrender option

that brings the house advantage down to about 0.25%.

you should be able to get more specific info on both games over at www.bj21.com Green Chip forums.

EJXD2 · #4 02-15-2006, 05:08 PM

Casino Royale is a strip casino that offers 100x odds on craps. It's located next to a Denny's between Harrah's and Venetian across from TI.

I'll be there (LV not necessary CR)this weekend for my bachelor party. Enjoy!

hoopsie44 · #5 02-16-2006, 01:23 PM

Last in Vegas about 9 months ago and the best BJ in town was The Plaza 2 deck game.

SheetWise · #6 02-16-2006, 03:14 PM

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Last in Vegas about 9 months ago and the best BJ in town was The Plaza 2 deck game.

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Most 2 deck games are selective shuffle -- which, unless they're stupid, never works. Were they using a stop card? How deep?

hoopsie44 · #7 02-16-2006, 03:52 PM

They were using a stop card and were dealing down to about 20-25 cards remaining. I can't recall if house was hitting soft 17. Check it out, as I said it was almost a year ago.

playersare · #8 02-17-2006, 11:15 AM

recent CBJN reports list the Plaza 2-deck game as follows:
stand on soft 17
resplit (including aces)
no surrender

this makes a HA of around 0.15% which is close to the best you can get in LV (counting/shuffle card not withstanding). didn't mention it before because I though OP only wanted to know about strip properties.

CORed · #9 02-20-2006, 02:09 AM

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recent CBJN reports list the Plaza 2-deck game as follows:
stand on soft 17
resplit (including aces)
no surrender

this makes a HA of around 0.15% which is close to the best you can get in LV (counting/shuffle card not withstanding). didn't mention it before because I though OP only wanted to know about strip properties.

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That is a very good game for Basic Strategy player. If the penetration is still as described in another post, it's a pretty good game for a counter, too, although I imagine they watch it pretty closely.

chitwood · #10 03-02-2006, 05:09 PM

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6 decks
blackjack pays 3:2
dealer stands on soft 17
split up to 3 times (including aces)
double after splitting allowed
late surrender option

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I haven't been to Vegas in about 2 years. Do the Bellagio, Mirage, Mandalay still deal this game (they did when I went last)? I don't have the roll to play the double deck games on the strip, and I mostly play for fun and my wife likes the Bellagio. If I can get the edge down under .3%, I'm satisfied.