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Old 02-14-2006, 03:51 PM
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Doesn't the software prevent accounts from the same IP from being at the same table until necessary (i.e. until the final table)? I had been operating under this assumption. This makes a huge difference, clearly.

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No one has addressed this since I asked earlier in the thread. Does anyone know?
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Old 02-14-2006, 03:58 PM
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Doesn't the software prevent accounts from the same IP from being at the same table until necessary (i.e. until the final table)? I had been operating under this assumption. This makes a huge difference, clearly.

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No one has addressed this since I asked earlier in the thread. Does anyone know?

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No one one here knows for sure, but I do not believe there is any sort of checking for account associations in MTTs.

For example, if you transfer money to someone on Party, you can no longer sit at the same cash game or STT with them. You get the little "association between you and XXXXX player" popup. Comes up for me somewhat often, as I offer a low-stakes affiliate signup bonus which I promote at my local homegame and a regional poker website, which I transfer directly from my account. And in this exact case, I have been seated at the same starting MTT (Party $40kG in this case) table as players that I have had this affiliation link with. This has happened not once but twice.

Based on that empirical evidence, I don't believe they're doing anything regarding MTT seating. If they're not keeping known linked accounts from the same starting table (where it would be trivial to prevent) then that leads me to believe the whole MTT seating assignment is random.
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Old 02-14-2006, 04:00 PM
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How does having the same account at the same table screw the other seven guys??? What is this TILT? What ways make it so advantageous to have two accounts at one table? I guess you can fold an AK preflop if your other hand contains an ace. Just seems like one less donk to take money from to me.
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Old 02-14-2006, 04:02 PM
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Two entries this week, 0 next is equivalent to one each week.

[/ QUOTE ]This is wrong. The fact that he is competing against himself in one week and flat-out not playing it the next means he can't win the tournament both weeks.

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competing against himself? we're still talking poker right? this is absurd.
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Old 02-14-2006, 04:02 PM
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However, I have been seated at the same starting MTT (Party $40kG in this case) table as players that I have had this affiliation link with.


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Thats just great [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] I always wondered how folks have 20k in chips only 10 minutes into the event. The rebuy trick cant account for all of those big stacks.
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Old 02-14-2006, 04:02 PM
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How does having the same account at the same table screw the other seven guys??? What is this TILT? What ways make it so advantageous to have two accounts at one table? I guess you can fold an AK preflop if your other hand contains an ace. Just seems like one less donk to take money from to me.

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Trapping.
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Old 02-14-2006, 04:03 PM
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Default Re: The Grandma dilemma: Debunking the myths

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How does having the same account at the same table screw the other seven guys??? What is this TILT? What ways make it so advantageous to have two accounts at one table? I guess you can fold an AK preflop if your other hand contains an ace. Just seems like one less donk to take money from to me.

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Eh... chip dumping, baseballing, soft-playing, better odds calculations.

Baseballing is the most dangerous.
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Old 02-14-2006, 04:06 PM
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Default Re: The Grandma dilemma: Debunking the myths

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How does having the same account at the same table screw the other seven guys??? What is this TILT? What ways make it so advantageous to have two accounts at one table? I guess you can fold an AK preflop if your other hand contains an ace. Just seems like one less donk to take money from to me.

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Umm, you're in BB and flop TPTK and bet out. There's a raise and reraise after you. You're beat, right?

Maybe not if those players are colluding to isolate the pot...
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Old 02-14-2006, 04:08 PM
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How does having the same account at the same table screw the other seven guys??? What is this TILT? What ways make it so advantageous to have two accounts at one table? I guess you can fold an AK preflop if your other hand contains an ace. Just seems like one less donk to take money from to me.

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I'm not sure if you're serious here, since my sarcasm detector doesn't work online.

The simplest answer is that you now have twice the information as everybody else at the table. The more information you have available, the better able you are to play optimally in a given situation. Also, since you're working together with yourself, you've essentially changed it from 1 vs. 8 to 2 vs. 7. There are lots of pretty ways you could use this information and different goal (bringing chips to the team rather than to the individual) to your advantage -- well-timed raises with 72o when your other self has AA, for example.
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Old 02-14-2006, 04:09 PM
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Two entries this week, 0 next is equivalent to one each week.

[/ QUOTE ]This is wrong. The fact that he is competing against himself in one week and flat-out not playing it the next means he can't win the tournament both weeks.

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competing against himself? we're still talking poker right? this is absurd.

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I was addressing the Tiger Woods analogy when I said that. You can't collude in golf. I don't think.
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