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Old 02-06-2007, 04:30 AM
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Default Re: HS NLHE on FTP

QQ?!? WTF so terrible

Full Tilt Poker Game #1741469455: Table Festival (6 max) - $200/$400 - No Limit Hold'em - 3:27:13 ET - 2007/02/06
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken ($57,613.60)
Seat 2: noataima ($45,517)
Seat 3: Anderzone ($77,476)
Seat 4: magicpitch1 ($58,991)
Seat 5: Genius28 ($39,600)
Seat 6: Mike Matusow ($101,779)
Genius28 posts the small blind of $200
Mike Matusow posts the big blind of $400
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
OMGClayAiken raises to $1,400
noataima folds
Anderzone folds
magicpitch1 calls $1,400
Genius28 calls $1,200
Mike Matusow folds
*** FLOP *** [2h 7h 5d]
Genius28 checks
OMGClayAiken checks
magicpitch1 bets $4,000
Genius28 has 15 seconds left to act
Genius28 raises to $13,200
OMGClayAiken has 15 seconds left to act
OMGClayAiken raises to $56,213.60, and is all in
magicpitch1 has 15 seconds left to act
magicpitch1 raises to $57,591, and is all in
Genius28 folds
magicpitch1 shows [Qs Qh]
OMGClayAiken shows [Th Ah]
Uncalled bet of $1,377.40 returned to magicpitch1
*** TURN *** [2h 7h 5d] [Td]
*** RIVER *** [2h 7h 5d Td] [Kc]
Genius28 adds $15,000
magicpitch1 shows a pair of Queens
OMGClayAiken shows a pair of Tens
magicpitch1 wins the pot ($130,224.20) with a pair of Queens
OMGClayAiken is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $130,227.20 | Rake $3
Board: [2h 7h 5d Td Kc]
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken showed [Th Ah] and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 2: noataima didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: Anderzone didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: magicpitch1 (button) showed [Qs Qh] and won ($130,224.20) with a pair of Queens
Seat 5: Genius28 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: Mike Matusow (big blind) folded before the Flop
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Old 02-06-2007, 04:32 AM
MusashiStyle MusashiStyle is offline
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Default Re: HS NLHE on FTP

i know magic must have doubled through genius before right?
does anyone have that hh?
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Old 02-06-2007, 04:37 AM
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Default Re: HS NLHE on FTP

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QQ?!? WTF so terrible

Full Tilt Poker Game #1741469455: Table Festival (6 max) - $200/$400 - No Limit Hold'em - 3:27:13 ET - 2007/02/06
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken ($57,613.60)
Seat 2: noataima ($45,517)
Seat 3: Anderzone ($77,476)
Seat 4: magicpitch1 ($58,991)
Seat 5: Genius28 ($39,600)
Seat 6: Mike Matusow ($101,779)
Genius28 posts the small blind of $200
Mike Matusow posts the big blind of $400
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
OMGClayAiken raises to $1,400
noataima folds
Anderzone folds
magicpitch1 calls $1,400
Genius28 calls $1,200
Mike Matusow folds
*** FLOP *** [2h 7h 5d]
Genius28 checks
OMGClayAiken checks
magicpitch1 bets $4,000
Genius28 has 15 seconds left to act
Genius28 raises to $13,200
OMGClayAiken has 15 seconds left to act
OMGClayAiken raises to $56,213.60, and is all in
magicpitch1 has 15 seconds left to act
magicpitch1 raises to $57,591, and is all in
Genius28 folds
magicpitch1 shows [Qs Qh]
OMGClayAiken shows [Th Ah]
Uncalled bet of $1,377.40 returned to magicpitch1
*** TURN *** [2h 7h 5d] [Td]
*** RIVER *** [2h 7h 5d Td] [Kc]
Genius28 adds $15,000
magicpitch1 shows a pair of Queens
OMGClayAiken shows a pair of Tens
magicpitch1 wins the pot ($130,224.20) with a pair of Queens
OMGClayAiken is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $130,227.20 | Rake $3
Board: [2h 7h 5d Td Kc]
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken showed [Th Ah] and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 2: noataima didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: Anderzone didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: magicpitch1 (button) showed [Qs Qh] and won ($130,224.20) with a pair of Queens
Seat 5: Genius28 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: Mike Matusow (big blind) folded before the Flop

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[censored] worst call ever. OMG
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Old 02-06-2007, 04:39 AM
Gary Stevenson Gary Stevenson is offline
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[ QUOTE ]
QQ?!? WTF so terrible

Full Tilt Poker Game #1741469455: Table Festival (6 max) - $200/$400 - No Limit Hold'em - 3:27:13 ET - 2007/02/06
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken ($57,613.60)
Seat 2: noataima ($45,517)
Seat 3: Anderzone ($77,476)
Seat 4: magicpitch1 ($58,991)
Seat 5: Genius28 ($39,600)
Seat 6: Mike Matusow ($101,779)
Genius28 posts the small blind of $200
Mike Matusow posts the big blind of $400
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
OMGClayAiken raises to $1,400
noataima folds
Anderzone folds
magicpitch1 calls $1,400
Genius28 calls $1,200
Mike Matusow folds
*** FLOP *** [2h 7h 5d]
Genius28 checks
OMGClayAiken checks
magicpitch1 bets $4,000
Genius28 has 15 seconds left to act
Genius28 raises to $13,200
OMGClayAiken has 15 seconds left to act
OMGClayAiken raises to $56,213.60, and is all in
magicpitch1 has 15 seconds left to act
magicpitch1 raises to $57,591, and is all in
Genius28 folds
magicpitch1 shows [Qs Qh]
OMGClayAiken shows [Th Ah]
Uncalled bet of $1,377.40 returned to magicpitch1
*** TURN *** [2h 7h 5d] [Td]
*** RIVER *** [2h 7h 5d Td] [Kc]
Genius28 adds $15,000
magicpitch1 shows a pair of Queens
OMGClayAiken shows a pair of Tens
magicpitch1 wins the pot ($130,224.20) with a pair of Queens
OMGClayAiken is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $130,227.20 | Rake $3
Board: [2h 7h 5d Td Kc]
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken showed [Th Ah] and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 2: noataima didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: Anderzone didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: magicpitch1 (button) showed [Qs Qh] and won ($130,224.20) with a pair of Queens
Seat 5: Genius28 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: Mike Matusow (big blind) folded before the Flop

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QQ isn't THAT bad of a call here. jman's hand looks like a draw here imo, i doubt he's going to check an overpair/2pr/set in his position 3way here ever so the QQ call is all about what pitch thinks genius has. genius can easily be trying to steal the pot putting jman on a missed flop since he checked in a 3way pot and think that pitch was simply trying to steal the pot with a bet in position.

in simpler terms, benyamine was hoping genius was c/r with air/weak holding and hoped jman had a draw or was just getting crazy with something <QQ and called.
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Old 02-06-2007, 04:41 AM
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Default Re: HS NLHE on FTP

I mean, with genius raising there and you pushing over top - he can hope that genius has like TT and you A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]x[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], and even then....man I just think it's disgusting
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Old 02-06-2007, 04:44 AM
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Default Re: HS NLHE on FTP

there's not a lot of drawing hands he can have here other than hearts though - he's making a call where he's either ever-so-slightly ahead, or absolutely annihilated

the second case is much more likely than the first
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Old 02-06-2007, 04:46 AM
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[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
QQ?!? WTF so terrible

Full Tilt Poker Game #1741469455: Table Festival (6 max) - $200/$400 - No Limit Hold'em - 3:27:13 ET - 2007/02/06
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken ($57,613.60)
Seat 2: noataima ($45,517)
Seat 3: Anderzone ($77,476)
Seat 4: magicpitch1 ($58,991)
Seat 5: Genius28 ($39,600)
Seat 6: Mike Matusow ($101,779)
Genius28 posts the small blind of $200
Mike Matusow posts the big blind of $400
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
OMGClayAiken raises to $1,400
noataima folds
Anderzone folds
magicpitch1 calls $1,400
Genius28 calls $1,200
Mike Matusow folds
*** FLOP *** [2h 7h 5d]
Genius28 checks
OMGClayAiken checks
magicpitch1 bets $4,000
Genius28 has 15 seconds left to act
Genius28 raises to $13,200
OMGClayAiken has 15 seconds left to act
OMGClayAiken raises to $56,213.60, and is all in
magicpitch1 has 15 seconds left to act
magicpitch1 raises to $57,591, and is all in
Genius28 folds
magicpitch1 shows [Qs Qh]
OMGClayAiken shows [Th Ah]
Uncalled bet of $1,377.40 returned to magicpitch1
*** TURN *** [2h 7h 5d] [Td]
*** RIVER *** [2h 7h 5d Td] [Kc]
Genius28 adds $15,000
magicpitch1 shows a pair of Queens
OMGClayAiken shows a pair of Tens
magicpitch1 wins the pot ($130,224.20) with a pair of Queens
OMGClayAiken is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $130,227.20 | Rake $3
Board: [2h 7h 5d Td Kc]
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken showed [Th Ah] and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 2: noataima didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: Anderzone didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: magicpitch1 (button) showed [Qs Qh] and won ($130,224.20) with a pair of Queens
Seat 5: Genius28 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: Mike Matusow (big blind) folded before the Flop

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QQ isn't THAT bad of a call here. jman's hand looks like a draw here imo, i doubt he's going to check an overpair/2pr/set in his position 3way here ever so the QQ call is all about what pitch thinks genius has. genius can easily be trying to steal the pot putting jman on a missed flop since he checked in a 3way pot and think that pitch was simply trying to steal the pot with a bet in position.

in simpler terms, benyamine was hoping genius was c/r with air/weak holding and hoped jman had a draw or was just getting crazy with something <QQ and called.

[/ QUOTE ]

i have to have a draw like 95% of the time for this call to be okay. I'm never ever gonna have a hand here with less than 45% equity against QQ.
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Old 02-06-2007, 04:51 AM
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Default Re: HS NLHE on FTP

c'mon, you don't just jam there sometimes with the 83o?

Not even sometimes?

Yugoslav
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Old 02-06-2007, 04:53 AM
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lol 2 some guy asking Mike if he got his glasses fixed.

hehe =)
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Old 02-06-2007, 04:56 AM
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[ QUOTE ]
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QQ?!? WTF so terrible

Full Tilt Poker Game #1741469455: Table Festival (6 max) - $200/$400 - No Limit Hold'em - 3:27:13 ET - 2007/02/06
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken ($57,613.60)
Seat 2: noataima ($45,517)
Seat 3: Anderzone ($77,476)
Seat 4: magicpitch1 ($58,991)
Seat 5: Genius28 ($39,600)
Seat 6: Mike Matusow ($101,779)
Genius28 posts the small blind of $200
Mike Matusow posts the big blind of $400
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
OMGClayAiken raises to $1,400
noataima folds
Anderzone folds
magicpitch1 calls $1,400
Genius28 calls $1,200
Mike Matusow folds
*** FLOP *** [2h 7h 5d]
Genius28 checks
OMGClayAiken checks
magicpitch1 bets $4,000
Genius28 has 15 seconds left to act
Genius28 raises to $13,200
OMGClayAiken has 15 seconds left to act
OMGClayAiken raises to $56,213.60, and is all in
magicpitch1 has 15 seconds left to act
magicpitch1 raises to $57,591, and is all in
Genius28 folds
magicpitch1 shows [Qs Qh]
OMGClayAiken shows [Th Ah]
Uncalled bet of $1,377.40 returned to magicpitch1
*** TURN *** [2h 7h 5d] [Td]
*** RIVER *** [2h 7h 5d Td] [Kc]
Genius28 adds $15,000
magicpitch1 shows a pair of Queens
OMGClayAiken shows a pair of Tens
magicpitch1 wins the pot ($130,224.20) with a pair of Queens
OMGClayAiken is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $130,227.20 | Rake $3
Board: [2h 7h 5d Td Kc]
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken showed [Th Ah] and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 2: noataima didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: Anderzone didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: magicpitch1 (button) showed [Qs Qh] and won ($130,224.20) with a pair of Queens
Seat 5: Genius28 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: Mike Matusow (big blind) folded before the Flop

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QQ isn't THAT bad of a call here. jman's hand looks like a draw here imo, i doubt he's going to check an overpair/2pr/set in his position 3way here ever so the QQ call is all about what pitch thinks genius has. genius can easily be trying to steal the pot putting jman on a missed flop since he checked in a 3way pot and think that pitch was simply trying to steal the pot with a bet in position.

in simpler terms, benyamine was hoping genius was c/r with air/weak holding and hoped jman had a draw or was just getting crazy with something <QQ and called.

[/ QUOTE ]

i have to have a draw like 95% of the time for this call to be okay. I'm never ever gonna have a hand here with less than 45% equity against QQ.

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i didn't say it was a good call, just making an argument for it not being the worst call in the world
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