How do i extract maximum value from top pro in 100r?

[grafyx]

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bluff. WTF are we bluffing with here? I think a fake blocker is much better here.

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The river looks like a pretty good card to bluff if we go to the river with air. We are obviously representing a back doored flush.

[Noam Chomsky]

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The river looks like a pretty good card to bluff if we go to the river with air.

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?? Come on.......How do we get this far with air without raising that ridiculous turn bet??

[Bond18]

K looks like a pretty bad card to CR. I think his bet is weak because his hand is weak, I'm almost certain any raise will push him off his hand as hes got to think im AA/KK/AK if i jam on him.

[bobneptune]

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bluff. WTF are we bluffing with here? I think a fake blocker is much better here.

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The river looks like a pretty good card to bluff if we go to the river with air. We are obviously representing a back doored flush.

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its not believable to the CO. we raised pf. we half potted the flop and then called a 3/4 pot re raise. did we do this praying for a back door flush ??? i'm not buying that.

CO seems to like his hand, so let's massage the pot on the turn.

as played , i like the suck bet/faux blocking bet on the river of 1,500-2,000. we've bet, bet , called a raise and check/called. he cannot put us on air if we feign a bluff by shoving. we need to make a bet he can call if he has a decent hand.

[mikeJ]

That turn bet by kwob20 is asking to get raised, if you raise it, he's going to have to think that some % of the time he's induced a bluff or induced you to overplay a hand. I c/r turn. Typically a flop lead/call, turn c/r will be percieved as a strong hand, but his small bet helps to widen your perceived range.

As played, I'd just shove river. He only has a potsized bet left.

[Fiksdal]

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K looks like a pretty bad card to CR. I think his bet is weak because his hand is weak, I'm almost certain any raise will push him off his hand as hes got to think im AA/KK/AK if i jam on him.

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Would you shove total air on the turn then?

[grafyx]

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K looks like a pretty bad card to CR. I think his bet is weak because his hand is weak, I'm almost certain any raise will push him off his hand as hes got to think im AA/KK/AK if i jam on him.

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I think its a very strange bet size to make with a marginal made hand like 99-JJ because it is likely to induce a bluff. Do you think its possible he is trying to induce a bluff with a hand like A3s?

[mikeJ]

bond, that seems like a bad bet by kwob if he is intending on bet/folding 99-JJ/44-77. Also, if he has trips or better, he's going to put all his chips in the pot for you, so we don't need to consider A3s.

[TheNewf]

Either donk the turn for 2K or checkraise his turn bet please. I kinda like the donk bet because letting him check behind the turn sucks. 3-betting the flop to like 4K is probably best though unless you think it's very likely he has air and you want to let him fire again or catch up.

[LearnedfromTV]

There's no prescription for getting paid with a monster on a blank board like this; sometimes he just has nothing and you won't get paid off unless you let him bluff but that doesn't mean you were wrong if you bet more at some point and blow him off the hand, because you need to get money in somewhere and give him a chance to stack off.

The whole hand goes better for you if you bet more on the flop. If he likes to raise weaker bets and that was why you bet 600, just bet 750 or 800 instead, otherwise bet 900-1000.

Obviously if you knew he was going to make that lame turn bet you would bet yourself, but now that he's done it I would make a c-r to a weird number like 3611 or something, to set up a river shove. What sucks is that his turn bet, assuming it's a bluff sometimes and a value bet sometimes, is only an ok bet the times you have a monster, because it freezes you; when you have a weakish hand like 99 (which is the majority of your range here), he'd be much better off betting like 2500 with both bluffs and value bets, but specifically with 88 out of position you hate his bet size (although it's slightly better for you than if he checked).

I think it's worth noting that he might have a K but you don't; from both your perspectives. His range is wider than yours because he could take that flop line with air, you can't. The weird turn bet is really weird, but I could see it being KQ or something that bluffed the flop, thinks you have 77/99, and wants to get paid/not get stacked by a big hand. It could be that he makes this bet knowing you'll only check raise with a monster, in which case your best line would be to call and check the river, but if he thinks you can bluff at all, he's got to think that bet could induce a bluff. The catch is that it's hard for you to have a bluff, other than maybe 55-77, but I can't imagine him folding a K.

Decent chance he's bluffing but at some point you have to get some money in; by checkraising the turn, or at least betting a decent amount on the river. His range includes a lot of marginal hands so having just called the turn bet, I would bet something like 2500-3000 (half potish) that he can call with a weak hand and raise with a strong hand. I think the time to get money in was with a turn c-r; but by the river just open shoving/potting is not getting called very often, and a check-raise river attempt is going to get checked through too often.