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Old 02-05-2007, 09:44 AM
Bond18 Bond18 is offline
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Default How do i extract maximum value from top pro in 100r?

Stars 100r, villain in hand is kwob20, a tough laggy player whose played with me plenty. He is certainly capable of playing back with air on a board that looks like i whiffed.

My image is a moderately active TAG but havn't shown down garbage.

My stack: 11,900
Kwob20: 9,700

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No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t75/t150
9 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP2 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to t450</font>, MP3 folds, CO calls t450 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t675)</font>, 3 folds.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t1125, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets t600</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to t1500</font>, Hero calls t900 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t3225)</font>.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t4125, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets t1250</font>, Hero calls t1250 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t5375)</font>.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t6625, 2 players)
Hero?

Thoughts on my line up until this point? Whats your river play?
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Old 02-05-2007, 09:50 AM
Rickyroodido Rickyroodido is offline
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Default Re: How do i extract maximum value from top pro in 100r?

what are the stacksizes?

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Old 02-05-2007, 10:26 AM
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Default Re: How do i extract maximum value from top pro in 100r?

Raise the turn FFS, get some money in the pot
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Old 02-05-2007, 10:28 AM
Rickyroodido Rickyroodido is offline
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Default Re: How do i extract maximum value from top pro in 100r?

I like the flop. But how about 3betting making it look like a game of chicken? Doesnt look like AA,KK I think, he would probably expect a checkraise on the turn if you had AA,KK

How about a weak bet on the turn? Maybe he will interpret that as a weak ettempt to rep AK. I dont think the K is a good card for you, so you need to try and convince him you dont have one.

His riverbet feels like its a "showdownbet", so I would call and lead river or checkraise with your line.
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Old 02-05-2007, 10:45 AM
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Default Re: How do i extract maximum value from top pro in 100r?

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Raise the turn FFS, get some money in the pot

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I think check-raising the turn looks way too strong if it's part of the plan but I also think that it's an off the cuff reaction to a weak bet from villain.

I just bet every street and bet every street more.
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Old 02-05-2007, 10:55 AM
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Default Re: How do i extract maximum value from top pro in 100r?

On the river, what size bet do you make?

My first instinct is to lead out around 3500 chips but I this could be a leak of mine. Villian gets good pot odds anyway with a shove and he seems to somewhat like his hand. If he'll call the 3500, will he call an extra 2500 chips or so?
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Old 02-05-2007, 10:58 AM
Noam Chomsky Noam Chomsky is offline
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Default Re: How do i extract maximum value from top pro in 100r?

bet $1,000.
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Old 02-05-2007, 11:01 AM
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Default Re: How do i extract maximum value from top pro in 100r?

I think I like weakleading the turn. It disguises your hand and also makes the river easier to play.
C/Ring the turn shows your hand is very strong.
C/C makes the river difficult to play as to whether to C/R or how much to bet.
I like leading turn for like 1500-1800. I doubt he gives it up unless he really had nothing that would pay you off anyway.
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Old 02-05-2007, 11:10 AM
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Default Re: How do i extract maximum value from top pro in 100r?

Interesting hand. I think your line is alright. I consider a CR on the turn. Although pot and stack sizes do make it a bit tricky.

I like a shove on the river. Checking is out of the question, because he will check behind with way too many of his hands that have showdown value. If you bet, a smaller bet is just gonna look suspicious. I think pushing the river clearly has the greatest equity, because he might also perceive it as a bluff.
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Old 02-05-2007, 11:11 AM
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Default Re: How do i extract maximum value from top pro in 100r?

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bet $1,000.

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This is very bad.
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