Interpretation and Religon

[kurto]

This reminds me of a sermen my brother wanted to play for me to show me the tolerance of Christians. he had taped it off of some religious cable network and had saved it just for my wife and I to watch. (He's a born again and he's constantly trying to save my wife and I)

It went something like this....
"What does it mean to be Christian towards other Faiths? If you have neighbors who are Muslim you should show them Christian hospitality. Encourage your children to be friendly with Jewish children in the neighborhood. Be CHRISTIAN. (this goes on in this fashion for another minute or so giving examples of how you are to be nice)

But if your child says she wants to learn about Islam, you cannot allow it. Your children cannot be indulged to try out other religions. (Here's where he gets very angry and his voice is booming) Because the Muslims are calling Jesus a LIAR. Because the Jews are calling Jesus a LIAR. The atheists are calling Jesus a LIAR."

I remember being confused about exactly what my brother thought I was supposed to get about this or why this would make me feel all warm and fuzzy about his beliefs.

[txag007]

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So basically your saying that they feel everyone will go to heaven no matter what they believe.


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I didn't say that.

The fundamental beliefs of most Christian denominations do match.

[txag007]

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Generally, if you talk to a believer - the one they follow is right. It just is.

They often "feel it". The fact that others "feel it" yet have very different beliefs is irrelevent. They are right while the others who feel it are wrong.

The interpretation that the person you are talking to of their scripture is undoubtably also correct. If people read it differently for centuries before... they were wrong.

Please note- with this valuable way to determine who has it right you can now save your eternal soul.

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None of what is written above is correct.

[kurto]

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Generally, if you talk to a believer - the one they follow is right. It just is.

They often "feel it". The fact that others "feel it" yet have very different beliefs is irrelevent. They are right while the others who feel it are wrong.

The interpretation that the person you are talking to of their scripture is undoubtably also correct. If people read it differently for centuries before... they were wrong.

Please note- with this valuable way to determine who has it right you can now save your eternal soul.

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None of what is written above is correct.

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I didn't realize you could discount the experience of the majority of the theists I've met. I can introduce you to my brother who will no doubt confirm that his church has it right and that all other religions are wrong.

I find it amusing that you claim I'm wrong. Are you suggesting that the Muslims are just as right as you are? Or how about the Jews? They claim Jesus wasn't the son of God. Are they right or wrong? Because I promise you they feel they experience their religion as strongly as you do.

Or is this just another arbitrary txag comment?

[txag007]

You aren't giving believers nearly enough credit for why they believe as they do. There is a difference between just "feeling" it, and actually experiencing God.

[bunny]

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You aren't giving believers nearly enough credit for why they believe as they do. There is a difference between just "feeling" it, and actually experiencing God.

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How can a believer distinguish between actually experiencing God and a delusion that they have experienced God?

[luckyme]

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You aren't giving believers nearly enough credit for why they believe as they do. There is a difference between just "feeling" it, and actually experiencing God.

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How can a believer distinguish between actually experiencing God and a delusion that they have experienced God?

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Gawwliie, bunny, only the people in the wrong religion have delusions. Oh, and some of Sam's children.

luckyme

[bunny]

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You aren't giving believers nearly enough credit for why they believe as they do. There is a difference between just "feeling" it, and actually experiencing God.

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How can a believer distinguish between actually experiencing God and a delusion that they have experienced God?

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Gawwliie, bunny, only the people in the wrong religion have delusions. Oh, and some of Sam's children.

luckyme

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I dont know who Sam is. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

The reason for my question was genuine curiosity. I'm sure txag007 will accept that there are some deluded christians, though not deluded about their experience with God. I am curious how he would suggest someone assure themselves this belief is not the result of a mental aberration.

[madnak]

I love that you actually experienced God and didn't misplace your brain afterwards, bunny. I wish you could explain to me why others seem to go all dogmatic when they have such experiences.

Okay txag, you claim that many other Christians (who claim to have experienced God) are wrong (and going to hell in some cases). Your justification for this is your claim that you have experienced God. You continually refuse to explain how you can be distinguished from them. In other words, you're acting out kurto's pattern to the letter.

[Alex-db]

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So how do they feel about the fact that there doctrines dont match. So basically your saying that they feel everyone will go to heaven no matter what they believe.

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Sorry everyone to go O/T for one moment, but hashi92 has posted quite a bit recently;

Hashi92,
Notwithstanding the value or quality of the message in your posts, please please check there/there and your/you're. If you were to say something good in future it may well be ignored because of this.