Monetizing/making 2+2 better

[Mat Sklansky]

The first thing i want to do is meet with you.

The money decisions are not too much mine, so it's hard to say, but I can assure you it would be a lot closer to ten thousand than 1 million

[nation]

I made a post in the past about where I should post about monitors. I needed monitors at the time (and still do) and knew that many people probably have monitors that they don't use anymore, but there was no place to put it. Classified is a silly place to put stuff like that in. I don't know the logistics of how a place like this would go, but I'm pretty sure that if this feature could be implemented somehow, there would be a lot of use in it.

-nation

[samjjones]

2+2 should offer "sup bro?", "How many 5 year olds?", and MS-Paint Phil Ivey t-shirts for sale.

[jaydub]

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Jared,

Thanks much for the post/summary. Frankly, it's a little depressing and disappointing that there's so much mod posturing and jockeying over stuff that at the end of the day does pretty much nothing of substance to improve the site, yet there's not serious discussion/support/planning to get initiatives going that would make this a fundamentally better experience for users, plus a significantly more valuable web property.


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Clearly you are continuing to jab a stick at the hornet nest here.

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Sure, mods don't get paid, but a smart mod could figure out ways to implement some of these proposals with contracting fees + possible revenue shares.


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Yes, the 2+2 mods are clearly business focused individuals who have the ability to put together such a proposal.

I suspect your point is that 2+2 has a poor selection strategy for mods but I think you overlook the distinction between mod and admin. Admins propose such things, mods delete [censored] smearing posts (well generally).

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On the bright side, at least there has been extensive discussion and consensus reached on the pressing issue of whether jiggling boobie avatars should be allowed in the Lounge.

In any case, I'll continue to offer suggestions that either 2+2 or other poker websites can feel free to take advantage of.

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Out of curiosity, don't you think these are all a couple years too late? I don't have access to the financials but I suspect 2+2 / conjelco left a lot of money on the table. Seems to me that a poker website is not something I'd want to invest heavily in right now.

J

[El Diablo]

jay,

"I suspect 2+2 / conjelco left a lot of money on the table. Seems to me that a poker website is not something I'd want to invest heavily in right now."

Absolutely tons of money has been left on the table. And you might be right regarding a poker website. But an online web property with a young male demographic with lots of disposable income is still an asset that has a ton of value, much of it currently unrealized in this specific case.

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N,

I heard it was only dorks like you at those things.

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Sadly, you're correct.

[N 82 50 24]

I offered in another thread to help 2+2 with this project. I don't want any sort of compensation.

Some basic web design things are embarrassing. I think the 2+2 Internet Magazine could be a terrific source of information for people, but I also am not convinced that people are as aware of it as they are of something like BBV or OOT. Making a "homepage" for people to go to with customized content would go a long way towards promoting a lot of 2+2s products.

The font changes from page to page (look at http://www.twoplustwo.com/magazine/c...asper0107.html versus http://www.twoplustwo.com/classified.php) are really questionable.

Just from a design aspect, a lot of cheap web designers are out there. It would cost next to nothing to get this done. All it requires is a simple CSS sheet that defines fonts, colors, sizes, etc.

From a programming perspective, there are a lot of cool things that could be done with 2+2. I would get into my ideas on this end, but I don't want to scare off the Reds. A lot of the custom programming stuff is harder to do than giving the site a makeover that doesn't involve wood-paneling.

In terms of the forum software, I'd like to see it upgraded to the latest version of UBB.threads. Chuck has stated that 2+2 also wants to do that, but they're waiting on the UBB.threads developer to find time to help 2+2 with the switchover.

Anyway, I want to help. I have experience in this area. I'll do it for free. The Reds can PM me if they'd like to discuss it.

[El Diablo]

N,

Awesome offer. Hopefully something works out here!

[josh_x]

All,

2+2 is the ~2500th most viewed website on the whole f-in internet!! Around october it was ranked ~1000!! The suggestions in this thread are all great, but why in gods name does it take a forum member to suggest 'hey guys, you could probably make a [censored] more money from this site', to which he is responded 'oh really, like how?'.

Am i getting this right? There is one guy (mat sklansky) working in a little office who essentially runs this site? This isn't some small town deli run by sergio and his son steven.

In so many ways 2+2 is pretty terrible. The archives are split into old and very old, with old being filled with so much great quality but so very hard to access. Is there even a link to the archiveserver.twoplustwo archives? The searching once you get there is a joke.

The www.twoplustwo.com page looks like it was designed in 1989. Then there are major inconsistencies, as someone mentioned, in the font and design. It all seems so amateur. I don't really know anything about it, but how much could it cost to pay someone to at the very least bring some consistency to twoplustwo, and make it feel like a site. At the moment it is a collection of pages.

More should be done to bring the community together. Things like that idol contest are great ways to do more for the community. At the moment there are some really great relationships between forum members, but not as a result of anything 2p2 has really done (other than exist).

[TheWorstPlayer]

El D's comment about a lot of young males with a lot of disposable income made me think. There are a lot of other sites which have deals with certain stores/distributors where savings go to the consumer and referral fees go to the web site. I would be willing to wager that if 2+2 set up a deal with, say, Best Buy, Nike, and some jeweller/watch store or whatever, it would work out very well for all parties involved.