Can you Ace my quiz?

[jii]

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Hand 4:

The Button who has a raising range of (22+, A8o+, A2s+, any suited...single...double gap suited connectors), raises to $3.50. It's folded around to the Hero in the BB who has 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

Do you Fold? Call? ReRaise?


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Made some calculations, hope these aren't flawed

<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre>
Hand Combinations Calls
22+ 12 13 156 156
A8o+ 16 6 96 32
A2s+ 4 6 24 0
54s+ 4 9 36 32
64s+ 4 8 32 0
344 220</pre><hr />

As you can see, I made some simplifications, e.g. villain never reraises and and he calls about half of his SCs and suIted gappers. Total 344 hands that he raises and 220 that calls, so 124 folds. I we raise, we make it a PSR, so we put $10 more.

From folds we get 124 * $5 = $620
When he calls, it costs us 220 * $10 = $2200
($2200 - $620) / 344 = $4.6 is the amount that we need to get per hand to make this a winning play.

P.S. I think average SSNL players folds much more.

[Esmerelda]

I fold hand 1.

I can't see raising unless UTG is a dork on tilt, I would only call against a loose passive fish. Against this range you are never ahead and often WB and oop.

Hand 2: I call, the raise is only 3% of my stack and I will have a pretty good idea of how the flop fits his narrow range.

Hand 3: Raise. This is situation dependent, I will be oop after the flop but I can pick up a nice pot right here and I dominate alot of his stealing range.

Hand 4: I probably raise more than call. I think I am ahead of his range slightly and the FE makes raising better than calling even though it kills my set odds. If I call then I will be oop against a wide range so I can't really continue w/o the set. IDK

[Ness3]

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fold/call/raise for 1, 2 and 3.

Final one call or reraise are both OK.

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I have not gone through this thread, so perhaps it has been addressed. However, this isn't much of a quiz. Playing these hands preflop shouldn't take more than a half a second of thought.

It is how you play these hands post flop against your opponents range/tendencies with consideration for the board that matters.

For example, how often do you c/r a missed small pair on a ragged board etc.

[FilthyLarry]

reraise
reraise
reraise
reraise

balls to the wall baby

[pokerpudii]

I love this type of post. I just started playing 6 max and only have about 20,000 hands under my belt, so this stuff is great...

I have a clarification question. Sklansky says that the following hands (in order) are in Group 3 - 99, TJs, JQs, KJs, ATs and AQ. Does the question the OP asks mean that the four suited hands listed ahead of AQ are included in his "range?" What about the Group 2 hands of AJs and QKs?

In HU play, I would rather have AQ than any of the suited hands mentioned above (I think...)

The probability of having a Group 1, 2 or 3 hand (plus 88) is 7.39%. If you take out those "questionable" suited hands above, the probability is 5.58%. Not a huge difference, but just wondering...

In the 20,000 hands that I have played at 200 6 max, I see very few good players with a PFR of 7%. In fact, only 8 out of the 115 players with at least 200 hands against me have a PFR this low (and only 2 of those are "winners."

I am really trying to learn this game and figure out why I should do something, but I need to understand the question completely to have it really sink in.

Thanks for your help.

[Paul Thomson]

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I love this type of post. I just started playing 6 max and only have about 20,000 hands under my belt, so this stuff is great...

I have a clarification question. Sklansky says that the following hands (in order) are in Group 3 - 99, TJs, JQs, KJs, ATs and AQ. Does the question the OP asks mean that the four suited hands listed ahead of AQ are included in his "range?" What about the Group 2 hands of AJs and QKs?

In HU play, I would rather have AQ than any of the suited hands mentioned above (I think...)

The probability of having a Group 1, 2 or 3 hand (plus 88) is 7.39%. If you take out those "questionable" suited hands above, the probability is 5.58%. Not a huge difference, but just wondering...

In the 20,000 hands that I have played at 200 6 max, I see very few good players with a PFR of 7%. In fact, only 8 out of the 115 players with at least 200 hands against me have a PFR this low (and only 2 of those are "winners."

I am really trying to learn this game and figure out why I should do something, but I need to understand the question completely to have it really sink in.

Thanks for your help.

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I don't think you're asking yourself the right questions or organizing your thoughts with the correct concepts.

[Ben86]

1) Fold
2) Call
3) Re Raise
4) Call

[pokerpudii]

I am trying, but I am not as smart as most...

Just trying to clarify which hands are in his "range" for now...

[PBJaxx]

Grunch. I must have missed this, so I will put my responses, then read through it all, because I think it is a good quiz.

1. Fold&gt;Raise&gt;Call
2. Call&gt;Fold&gt;Raise
3. Raise&gt;Call&gt;Fold
4. Raise&gt;Fold&gt;Call

Now I'll read through to find out how much of a pre-flop donk I am. BTW, this post is making think I have to assign pre-flop ranges much more often than I do!

[SABR42]

Grunching:

Hand 1: FOLD. If we know for sure that he is this nitty, then it's an easy fold. However, we rarely know this.

Hand 2: CALL. His range is tight, this makes calling for set value optimal, because he is more likely to pay off with a tight range.

Hand 3: RE-RAISE. Don't let him win by c-betting his A8o on the flop. You have way the best of it.

Hand 4: Call and re-raise are both fine, IMO.