**Official uNL Microbrew thread: January (nc)**

[Necromancer]

Dec NL mainly 25 and 50.

[keikiwai]

so, i should be happy that villain calls my 150BB all-in, right?

i'm sooooo [censored] happy, i could die of joy

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$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
3 Players
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<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
Hero (BTN): $19.25
SB: $14.85
BB: $55.65

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($0.15, 3 players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $0.40</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $1.30</font>, BB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises all in to $19.25</font>, SB calls all in for $13.60
Uncalled bet of $4.35 returned to Hero

<font color="black">Flop:</font> 6 T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($29.9, 2 players)
No action

<font color="black">Turn:</font> 6 T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] ($29.9, 2 players)
No action

<font color="black">River:</font> 6 T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [T] ($29.9, 2 players)
No action

<font color="black">Results:</font>
Hero had K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (two pair, Kings and Tens)
SB had J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a flush, Ace high) and won $29.40
Final Pot: $29.40 ($0.50 rake)

[Unknown Soldier]

uh, yeah

unless you don't like money

[keikiwai]

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uh, yeah

unless you don't like money

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well that doesn't make me feel better at all

thanks [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

here's another wacky hand.... KJ?... okley dokley

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$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
4 Players
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<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
BB: $4.1
CO: $9.70
Hero (BTN): $12.45
SB: $15.2

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> T T ($0.15, 4 players)
CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.40</font>, SB calls $0.35, <font color="red">BB raises to $1.10</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3.70</font>, SB calls $3.30, <font color="red">BB raises all in to $4.20</font>, Hero calls $0.50, SB calls $0.50

<font color="black">Flop:</font> Q T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($12.6, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

<font color="black">Turn:</font> Q T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [9] ($12.6, 3 players)
<font color="red">SB bets all in for $11.05</font>, Hero calls all in for $8.25
Uncalled bet of $2.80 returned to SB

<font color="black">River:</font> Q T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9 [T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] ($29.1, 3 players)
No action

<font color="black">Results:</font>
BB had 9 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a full house, Nines full of Queens)
Hero had T T (four of a kind, Tens) and won $28.10
SB had J K (a straight, King high)
Final Pot: $28.10 ($1.00 rake)

[barryc83]

Keik, you are rich with +EV now.

[keikiwai]

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Keik, you are rich with +EV now.

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yay sklansky bucks!

[Check_The_Nuts]

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Villain was 52/10/1.5 over like 40 hands. Also 52% WTSD and 60% W$SD. Never folds to a cbet.

Was this river push fine? (I know it looks donkish but this guy was sort of a donkey. I thought he'd call with QQ TT obv or a straight.)

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($82.55)
CO ($49.50)
Button ($16.90)
SB ($54.05)
BB ($54.50)
Hero ($74.20)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, MP calls $2, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>.

Flop: ($4.25) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4.5</font>, MP calls $4.50.

Turn: ($13.25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $9</font>, MP calls $9.

River: ($31.25) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $58.7 (All-In)</font>, MP folds.

Final Pot: $89.95

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has 9d 9h (four of a kind, nines).
Outcome: Hero wins $89.95. </font>

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not a fan. I think your turn bet needed to be bigger to make this river less awkward. I probably would have leaned to a half pot value bet, but I dunno villian that well. If he floats fairly often I'd definitely go for check/raise on turn or somethin...

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Yeah, I kind of get excited with the nuts. The problem is when I turn quads it's hard for me to bet closer to the pot as I really don't want to blow him away. He doesn't really "float" but just calls bets and doesn't neccessarily try and take it away on the turn.

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Obviously check raising a float is no good then. I would have bet maybe 10 or 11 on the turn (which is kind of a scary number, I can see why u did 9). I would imagine he'd raise any decent hand on the turn, like TPTK+ (this is probably a great hand for this guy), so this is the reason I think valuetowning the river with a half pot&gt;overpotting and hoping he has a monster. Its very doubtfull even he would slowplay the turn when you've shown that you like your hand a ton by both overpotting the flop and hitting the turn pretty hard.

I suppose another viable option would be pot-half pot- near pot. Probably best for showdown monkeys, where the other line is better if they really like to draw.

Another thing to note about the river is it completes a four card straight. If he's likely to shove with this anyways over a bet, then don't bother overbetting, he probably won't call without the straight and you would have gotten it in anyways if he had the straight and just bet 1/2 pot...


agree?

[Imrahil]

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Villain was 52/10/1.5 over like 40 hands. Also 52% WTSD and 60% W$SD. Never folds to a cbet.

Was this river push fine? (I know it looks donkish but this guy was sort of a donkey. I thought he'd call with QQ TT obv or a straight.)

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($82.55)
CO ($49.50)
Button ($16.90)
SB ($54.05)
BB ($54.50)
Hero ($74.20)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, MP calls $2, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>.

Flop: ($4.25) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4.5</font>, MP calls $4.50.

Turn: ($13.25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $9</font>, MP calls $9.

River: ($31.25) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $58.7 (All-In)</font>, MP folds.

Final Pot: $89.95

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has 9d 9h (four of a kind, nines).
Outcome: Hero wins $89.95. </font>

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not a fan. I think your turn bet needed to be bigger to make this river less awkward. I probably would have leaned to a half pot value bet, but I dunno villian that well. If he floats fairly often I'd definitely go for check/raise on turn or somethin...

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Yeah, I kind of get excited with the nuts. The problem is when I turn quads it's hard for me to bet closer to the pot as I really don't want to blow him away. He doesn't really "float" but just calls bets and doesn't neccessarily try and take it away on the turn.

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Obviously check raising a float is no good then. I would have bet maybe 10 or 11 on the turn (which is kind of a scary number, I can see why u did 9). I would imagine he'd raise any decent hand on the turn, like TPTK+ (this is probably a great hand for this guy), so this is the reason I think valuetowning the river with a half pot&gt;overpotting and hoping he has a monster. Its very doubtfull even he would slowplay the turn when you've shown that you like your hand a ton by both overpotting the flop and hitting the turn pretty hard.

I suppose another viable option would be pot-half pot- near pot. Probably best for showdown monkeys, where the other line is better if they really like to draw.

Another thing to note about the river is it completes a four card straight. If he's likely to shove with this anyways over a bet, then don't bother overbetting, he probably won't call without the straight and you would have gotten it in anyways if he had the straight and just bet 1/2 pot...


agree?

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I'm not too sure if this guy would shove here over my bet if he made a straight on the river. I think that if he had a straight he may be donkey enough to call the big overbet but not donkey enough to push over a river bet if that makes any sense.

He said that he had AQ which seems to make sense. Whether he'd call a $20 on the river I dunno.

[kabouter]

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Sounds, good. I haven't seen Sabie Sands, but it shouldn't be that much different from Southern Kruger Park. I've visited Kruger twice, and it's just been awesome.
I'm a supporter of the aids awareness programs down there, but, unfortunately, the people that should recognize the threat aids poses to society and themselves - namely the majority of poor and/or uneducated people - simply don't.

Anyway, I haven't been to the US west coast, but I doubt I'll find it better than Cape Town area.
Also, Somerset West is a kind of a semi-beat, it's like new Germany. More foreigners than locals. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

If you should ever happen to go down there again, don't pass up on the Garden Route - it's by far the most beautiful part of SA imo.

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Yeah AIDS seems easy to avoid, yet people always think with their genitals [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]. Anyways I know what you mean with your somerset west comment, it's definately true, I stayed at a B&amp;B owned by a german, he was the most friendly german I met in my entire life though (and I met a lot of germans [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] ), definately good times.

What I was wondering though, I'm a surf addict, and was slightly disappointed not being able to find a surfboard because all shops were closed (Christmas). So I just went for a swim instead, but practically nobody was in the ocean, they all said it was full of sharks. It was kind of weird swimming there all alone constantly checking if I wasn't being chased by a great white. Is the shark population really that high, or are South Africans just scared easily? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]. I'm seriously considering moving closer to the sea as soon as I finished my school, leaning more towards the area between San Diego/Los Angeles now. Cape Town didn't really live up to the image I had of it, don't get me wrong though it was still a great city!

[kabouter]

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uh, yeah

unless you don't like money

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well that doesn't make me feel better at all

thanks [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

here's another wacky hand.... KJ?... okley dokley

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$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
4 Players
LegoPoker Hand Converter

<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
BB: $4.1
CO: $9.70
Hero (BTN): $12.45
SB: $15.2

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> T T ($0.15, 4 players)
CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.40</font>, SB calls $0.35, <font color="red">BB raises to $1.10</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3.70</font>, SB calls $3.30, <font color="red">BB raises all in to $4.20</font>, Hero calls $0.50, SB calls $0.50

<font color="black">Flop:</font> Q T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($12.6, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

<font color="black">Turn:</font> Q T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [9] ($12.6, 3 players)
<font color="red">SB bets all in for $11.05</font>, Hero calls all in for $8.25
Uncalled bet of $2.80 returned to SB

<font color="black">River:</font> Q T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9 [T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] ($29.1, 3 players)
No action

<font color="black">Results:</font>
BB had 9 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a full house, Nines full of Queens)
Hero had T T (four of a kind, Tens) and won $28.10
SB had J K (a straight, King high)
Final Pot: $28.10 ($1.00 rake)

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Keiki,

I have been on vacation for a while, so I missed you showing up here, I guess you are playing 10nl just to get an idea of nl cash games? Anyways what was your reasoning behind going allin preflop with TT? Were you just fooling around at the micro tables, or was this a serious attempt to get your feet wet at the nl tables?