Negreanu lumps Raymer w/ Moneymaker & Gold

[wisehandpoker]

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Maybe DN liked Raymer until Raymer got way out of line with over the top insults all over pokerstars? I dunno

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link? Or at least some details?

[Ribsauce]

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Ribsauce, you know its a no-win argument on this site.

[/ QUOTE ]I think Raymer is a great player obviously btw, just saying it should be pretty obvious why DN may not like him and would badmouth him like this

[Ribsauce]

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Maybe DN liked Raymer until Raymer got way out of line with over the top insults all over pokerstars? I dunno

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link? Or at least some details?

[/ QUOTE ]After DN said the WPT lawsuit should be dropped and the players should just not play if they didn't want to, Raymer called him a WPT sockpuppet and said he was glad he was out of the main event (this was like right after Negreanu got knocked out so it was pretty [censored] up to say), and said a bunch of other stuff while playing on pokerstars. It was so un-Raymer like the thread about it here actually was titled "Raymer's account hacked" because no one thought he would say [censored] like that. Then Negreanu apparently said some insults on his video blog but only 2 of those ever loaded so I don't know exactly what he said.

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also I thought all this crap was over and they were buddies again but I dunno I guess not. drama and all that

[JCCARL]

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Obviously Raymer shouldn't be lumped in with the other two...hence the point of posting it. Why would Daniel say that?

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Jealousy is my guess

[wisehandpoker]

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Maybe DN liked Raymer until Raymer got way out of line with over the top insults all over pokerstars? I dunno

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link? Or at least some details?

[/ QUOTE ]After DN said the WPT lawsuit should be dropped and the players should just not play if they didn't want to, Raymer called him a WPT sockpuppet and said he was glad he was out of the main event (this was like right after Negreanu got knocked out so it was pretty [censored] up to say), and said a bunch of other stuff while playing on pokerstars. It was so un-Raymer like the thread about it here actually was titled "Raymer's account hacked" because no one thought he would say [censored] like that. Then Negreanu apparently said some insults on his video blog but only 2 of those ever loaded so I don't know exactly what he said.

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Thanks.

[Suigin406]

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Obviously Raymer shouldn't be lumped in with the other two...hence the point of posting it. Why would Daniel say that?

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Jealousy is my guess

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same here, i did think raymer has backed up his WSOP win with some nice showings since...

[MicroBob]

Here we go again with that Raymer/Negreneau stuff.
Geez.

Raymer actually had a pretty decent shot to win make the 2006 final-table as well. Ton of chips and ended up finishing 30th IIRC.

Even if Negreneau doesn't think Raymer is THAT spectacular it seems really inappropriate to lump him into 'amateur' status like that. It's not like he's Tiffany Williamson or something.


Then again, Raymer himself has said he thinks Moneymaker is a pretty good player.

And I think Gold's actual playing is probably a little better than what many people think. His extremely unlikeable personality is tainting people's opinion of his ability at the table.

[Blizzardbaum]

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Maybe DN liked Raymer until Raymer got way out of line with over the top insults all over pokerstars? I dunno

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link? Or at least some details?

[/ QUOTE ]After DN said the WPT lawsuit should be dropped and the players should just not play if they didn't want to, Raymer called him a WPT sockpuppet and said he was glad he was out of the main event (this was like right after Negreanu got knocked out so it was pretty [censored] up to say), and said a bunch of other stuff while playing on pokerstars. It was so un-Raymer like the thread about it here actually was titled "Raymer's account hacked" because no one thought he would say [censored] like that. Then Negreanu apparently said some insults on his video blog but only 2 of those ever loaded so I don't know exactly what he said.

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Negreanu is obviously behaving like a hormonal teenage girl, as was Raymer when he made his remarks about Daniel. Good for Raymer for apologizing for his part in taking the argument to Rosie/Donald levels, and hopefully Daniel will do the same. No one is going to confuse Raymer for Phil Ivey but he is clearly a much better player than Gold and Moneymaker and his record in tournaments over the last several years backs that up.

If Raymer wanted to get catty again he could ask Daniel how many times he's cashed in live events with over 2000 people. I think Raymer was 5 for 5 before the ME this summer.

[syndr0me]

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After watching HSP, I lump Negreanu in with the average NL50 player on Stars. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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lol, yep

[Dids]

Dan N. has come off like a pretty immature and petty guy pretty much always.