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Old 01-02-2007, 05:39 PM
jds1201 jds1201 is offline
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Default I hate the way I played this (100NL)

Villain is playing about half the pots so far (30 hands). I know I played it horribly, but I don't know what line I should have taken.

Felt weak to fold the flop, but can I really reraise here? Then WTF is that turn bet? By the time the river bet came I was just confused and called because I'd butchered the hand so badly that I figured why stop now.

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $94.65
UTG+1: $115.85
CO: $56
Hero: $99.30
SB: $309.25
BB: $49.40

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $3.5</font>, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($7.5, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $5.5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $11</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($29.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $1</font>, Hero calls.

River: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($31.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $12</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: $55.5
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Old 01-02-2007, 05:41 PM
epdaws epdaws is offline
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Default Re: I hate the way I played this (100NL)

I'm re-popping that flop an awful lot there. Lots of equity against a drawing or weaker hand quite often. The rest of the hand, as played, is fine.
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Old 01-02-2007, 05:41 PM
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Default Re: I hate the way I played this (100NL)

Asides from river, it looks ok to me.
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Old 01-02-2007, 05:41 PM
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Default Re: I hate the way I played this (100NL)

Cbet is weak. I bet 7 here.

As played Id raise that turn bet to 20 and then give up.
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Old 01-02-2007, 05:45 PM
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Default Re: I hate the way I played this (100NL)

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Cbet is weak. I bet 7 here.

As played Id raise that turn bet to 20 and then give up.

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Why bet more on this flop than a standard cbet? Isn't the whole idea to standardize the bet so villains can't catch onto these things?
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Old 01-02-2007, 05:45 PM
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7 is my standard cbet.
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Old 01-02-2007, 05:48 PM
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Why bet more on this flop than a standard cbet? Isn't the whole idea to standardize the bet so villains can't catch onto these things?

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I don't think it makes much difference whether it's 6 or 7 - it's just a matter of preference really. Obviously $7 makes you an extra cent or something though. I tend to bet ~2/3 pot oop and 3/4 pot in position, though I think this is giving some players false-tells, thinking I'm bluffing with one of them or something.
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Old 01-02-2007, 06:13 PM
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Default Re: I hate the way I played this (100NL)

Normally my cbet would be 6 here. I was messing around with the BetPot AHK script last night. Don't think the difference is material here.

I'd like the flop reraise more if it weren't for the gutshot outs. I don't want to get raised off my hand just yet.

Given another chance to play this hand, I think I agree with the raise the turn and then give up advice.

Thanks guys.
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Old 01-02-2007, 06:26 PM
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Default Re: I hate the way I played this (100NL)

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I tend to bet ~2/3 pot oop and 3/4 pot in position, though I think this is giving some players false-tells, thinking I'm bluffing with one of them or something.

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This is interesting, since I often size my bet with the opposite pattern. I bet slightly more OOP, since I prefer ending the hand there, and I get more information about villain on the flop. I don't mind as much if an opponent floats when I have position, since I feel more comfortable playing the turn and river in position.
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Old 01-02-2007, 06:42 PM
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Default Re: I hate the way I played this (100NL)

On the turn, he's scared of the flush. Raise him big, then give up if he calls.

On the river, I think he has maybe KJ? AJ or QJ are possible as well... But now he figures you don't have the flush so he's betting it again.
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