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Old 12-30-2006, 03:22 PM
Losing all Losing all is offline
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Default Re: Low end Supernovas looked over by new VIP program.

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300,00 points under the old system-

$16,800 + some crappy freerolls

300,000 points under new system-

$16,800 + some crappy freerolls + $3400 + %75 towards another $3200.


I'm not sure what people were expecting, but this looks like a nice bump to me.

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my brain is not fully awake this morning, can you please explain these numbers?

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Sure, the 1,050,000fpp's you earn for 300Kvpp's is worth $16,800. $5K in bonuses cost $1600 in fpp's +$3400. The real valus comes at 400K and 500K though.
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Old 12-30-2006, 03:22 PM
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Default Re: Low end Supernovas looked over by new VIP program.

I wasn't aware you got the bonus at each level.

That makes it marginally better but I still don't think I'll be aiming for 300K VPPs.

Ryan
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Old 12-30-2006, 03:23 PM
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Default Re: Low end Supernovas looked over by new VIP program.

gotcha, thanks bob.
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Old 12-30-2006, 03:24 PM
ryanghall ryanghall is offline
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Default Re: Low end Supernovas looked over by new VIP program.

Also, guys, the cash value of FPPs was there last year. This can be left out of the discussion. We all know how that works by now.

Ryan
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Old 12-30-2006, 03:27 PM
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Default Re: Low end Supernovas looked over by new VIP program.

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Also, guys, the cash value of FPPs was there last year. This can be left out of the discussion. We all know how that works by now.


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Right. This is why I deducted $800 from $2,000 and from $3,000.
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Old 12-30-2006, 03:30 PM
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Default Re: Low end Supernovas looked over by new VIP program.

I a family man who value his time and only play when I can (after the kids are in bed)...
For me I am only able to get up to Silver (for 3 months now).. $50 bonus or something would've been nice for some us [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]
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Old 12-30-2006, 03:35 PM
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Default Re: Low end Supernovas looked over by new VIP program.

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Also, guys, the cash value of FPPs was there last year. This can be left out of the discussion. We all know how that works by now.

Ryan

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I think it's worth including on both 'old SN' and 'new SN' to see the percentage increase in money you get.

Looking at 'get$3.4k' for all that work doesn't look like much.

But it really is a matter of:
$20.2k instead of $16.8k (not including frerroll value because that's too unknown right now).


At 300k you are getting 16.8% more than you would have previously.

If you are at roughly 30% rakeback for the stakes you play then this effectively makes it 35% I believe.


I'm not so sure if all that grinding is worth an extra 5% or $3400 or however you want to look at it. But it's worth evaluating that way.

This isn't that different from traditional rakeback sites where most players get 28% but the highest volume players can get bumped to 31% or something.


And then you also factor in that if you can get to 300k then you are not TOO far from 400k or 500k where your percentage really starts to escalate.
Plus all that additional freeroll value (maybe an extra 1%...I don't know).


Man, this is complicated.
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Old 12-30-2006, 03:37 PM
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Default Re: Low end Supernovas looked over by new VIP program.

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$50 bonus or something would've been nice for some us

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Looks like you get entry into $20,000 freeroll each week (instead of $2,500 freeroll last year).
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Old 12-30-2006, 03:37 PM
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Default Re: Low end Supernovas looked over by new VIP program.

Rough calcs look like these bonuses add (compared to the old value of FPP's only):

12% for a 200k player
22% for a 300k player
33% for a 400k player
42% for a 500k player

For the higher values it looks to be a decent value. Certainly better than FTP's upgrade. I'm not sure what kind of value can be expected from the 50k weekly freerolls, probably another $50 a week or so.
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Old 12-30-2006, 03:41 PM
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Default Re: Low end Supernovas looked over by new VIP program.

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Also, guys, the cash value of FPPs was there last year. This can be left out of the discussion. We all know how that works by now.

Ryan

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If you are at roughly 30% rakeback for the stakes you play then this effectively makes it 35% I believe.


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Going from 300K to 500K looks like over 50% RB, noice
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