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Old 12-30-2006, 12:53 AM
Tiburon Tiburon is offline
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Default Re: Value Betting

*grunch*

Hand 1: I think I like a 3-bet here, actually. I think a higher FD probably would've raised the flop, so you're most likely up against AQ or KQ. The only other reasonable hand he could have played this way (that beats you) is 99, which is unlikely.

Hand 2: Bet. He hasn't shown anything to make you think your hand is beat, and he seems willing to call down.

Hand 3: I think a c/c is fine here, especially if you think he will bluff at you with just high cards. I would bet at it if I thought he would call with just high cards, though.
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Old 12-30-2006, 04:04 AM
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Hand 1 you checkraise and call a 3bet because he probably has trips and won't be able to check behind with it, but if you're 3bet it's more likely to be a full house.

Hand 2 easy value bet as others have stated.

Hand 3 is one of those "I'm going to call anyway so I might as well bet/fold" type bets.

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Is it safe to say that when it comes to value betting I only have to be right more than I'm wrong, but not necessarily a lot more, for it to be profitable

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Not always, if you're out of position. I'll find a link to an explanation about that one.
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Old 12-30-2006, 04:06 AM
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Old 12-30-2006, 11:56 AM
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I sometimes open raise 55+ in that spot (hand 3), is it that bad?
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Old 12-30-2006, 12:21 PM
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Hand 1: Puss-out. What do you think Villain has that beats you? He checkraised the turn, all but eliminating the chances of a higher flush. And he raised preflop, so that all but eliminates fluky full houses with Q9 or Q8. If he's beating you, he has 99 or QQ, and there's only one way to have each of those hands since two of both cards are out. This is AQ 98.3% of the time (give or take). Three-smack the river.

Hand 2: Puss-out, but not as much as Hand 1. I bet/fold. CO's line could be a turned flush that he's waiting to raise the river on, but it could also be a weaker Jack, JT maybe.

Hand 3: nh, except for the preflop limp. Button took a retarded line if he has quads (and the river check-behind is a dead giveaway that he doesn't, so end your conversions at the decision point, please). But this is something like 99 a fairly decent amount of the time. KQ probably will bet as a bluff but not call. So c/c is best.
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Old 12-30-2006, 02:28 PM
Aaron W. Aaron W. is offline
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I sometimes open raise 55+ in that spot (hand 3), is it that bad?

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Depends on what "sometimes" means. I usually don't play small pairs up front at 6-max games. I take something like 77+ or 88+ depending on how loose the players are behind me (both preflop and postflop).
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