Ask me about being a Québec separatist

[recondite7]

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Why don't you go back to France?

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Why don't you go back to England?

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Probably because he doesn't want Washington State to be it's own country. Canada needs to get a backbone and tell these idiots to shut up and accept the fact they are part of a country and can't just leave to become their own nation (which would suck by the way). If Texas wanted to become it's own country people would laugh at the politicians trying to make this happen because the idea of it is such a joke.

[JaredL]

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5) Also do you think it is fair that you have twice the amount of seats in parliament compared to Alberta/BC yet the populations are the same.

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Is that true? Holy [censored]!

[recondite7]

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5) Also do you think it is fair that you have twice the amount of seats in parliament compared to Alberta/BC yet the populations are the same.



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Why is this? I was born in Canada but after being away for so long I now don't know much about the political system.

[Zurvan]

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5) Also do you think it is fair that you have twice the amount of seats in parliament compared to Alberta/BC yet the populations are the same.

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Is that true? Holy [censored]!

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Read this thread carefully. Understand why Canadians get so pissed off when Quebecers act like they're so mistreated.

[CasqueNoir]

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No it really isn't. Size of a country isn't indicative of strength of economy. Do the research.

[/ QUOTE ]And why would Québec's current economy wouldn't be ebough. Why the patronizing?

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Your not addressing the key issue here, the issue of big businesses that want to set up a factory/office/... in Canada. They used to often come to Quebec, now they avoid it like the plague.

[/ QUOTE ]Well, unemployment rates are more or less what they were before there was a prominent independence party.

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But if the separatists did win the next referendum wouldn't your side argue that this the final word? You wouldn't expect a 'join Canada or not' referendum to follow, would you?

[/ QUOTE ]People that seized their independence never went back. Never happened in History.

[dinopoker]

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It's a shame that Quebec's fascist language laws aren't really well known outside of Quebec and Canada. Whenever I tell a non-Canadian about Quebec's language laws, they're always quite shocked.

For instance:

1) If you are working in a retail shop that serves the public, you MUST greet everyone in french. If you greet someone in english (even if you know that this person is english), you can be fined by the language police.

Every so often some seperatist retard will file a complain with the language police about being served in english at a particular store. An undercover language police officer will then visit the store to investigate. If he/she is greeted in english, the store gets fined.

2) The french text on all signs must be at least 2X the size of the english text. The language police go around with rulers measuring the size of text on signs that they feel do not meet the "prominently french" requirement. If the signs do not comply with the law, the store is fined for each sign.

This applies EVERYWHERE in Quebec -- including places like China Town in Montreal, where many store owners get fined for having signs which are only in Chinese, or in places like Shawville, which is about 90% english and have had numerous run-ins with the language police.

Also, if you dare use an "Anglicism" on a sign -- which is a common english word that is understood by almost all french people, such as "Le Week-end", you get fined.

3) If you move to Quebec from outside Canada, you *must* put your children in french schools -- even if your kids do not speak a word of french. For special cases (for instance, if you have a kid who is a prodigy of some sort, and an english school is best able to accomodate his/her gift), you can go to a tribunal and argue your case for english schooling. However, it takes years to get your case heard before the tribunal (and in the interim, your kid will have to attend french school), and they turn down almost every request they hear. As a consequence, english schools are closing all over Quebec due to the fact that english people are leaving the province, and new immigrants aren't permitted to send their kids to english schools.

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This is all true and it's a total joke. OP, do you truly think these laws are just? If so, how can you argue that Quebec collectively has the freedom of self-determination when it comes to separation, but that it's citizens don't have that same right when it comes to the language in which they want to do business or educate their children?

[astroglide]

casque,
as a result of this thread i went from not really having an opinion on this subject to having the impression that separatists are a bunch of douchebags.

[Zurvan]

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And why would Québec's current economy wouldn't be ebough. Why the patronizing?

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Quebec can't support itself now. It requires transfer payments from the Federal Government. Why would it be any different after separation? Especially when you consider all the NEW costs that would be incurred.

[KneeCo]

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But if the separatists did win the next referendum wouldn't your side argue that this the final word? You wouldn't expect a 'join Canada or not' referendum to follow, would you?

[/ QUOTE ]People that seized their independence never went back. Never happened in History.

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So you can keep having referendums, no matter how many you lose, and then once you win one by the slimmest majority it's over. Do you really think that's at all legitimate?

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As a US citizen I support the separation of Quebec. Here's how I see it benefiting everyone.

1. Quebec gets independence
2. They get more pissy and act more like the French
3. Eventually they will start to harbor terrorists and other groups that hate the US, trying to emulate their French cousins in the douche-bag department.
4. US gets pissed, invades Quebec. War will be short (2 hours). (After all, they are French and learn how to raise their arms in surrender mode at early age)
5. US imposes imperial ways on them and makes them go back to speaking english.
6. Profit