50NL J9s on button - big decision on flop

inspir3d · #1 12-08-2006, 10:03 AM

SB is 20.74/7.41/2.22 over 135 hands

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SB ($65.72)
BB ($56.65)
UTG ($49.50)
MP ($46.50)
Hero ($51.78)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
1 fold, MP calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($2) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets $1.7, BB folds, MP folds, Hero raises to $7, SB calls $65.47 (All-In), Hero ??

Jigsaws · #2 12-08-2006, 10:08 AM

Fold. You're not getting the odds to draw, and you might be up against a flush draw killing six of your outs.

Raise preflop, by the way.

Sir Winalot · #3 12-08-2006, 12:12 PM

Easy fold to flop shove. I think preflop is ok.

ImprovinNewbie · #4 12-08-2006, 12:16 PM

i dont call and i dont raise there.

paz · #5 12-08-2006, 12:27 PM

is the raise on the flop standard here?
i usually just call and see what happens on the turn.

Imrahil · #6 12-08-2006, 12:54 PM

Raise PF. This is standard. On the flop just call because you have position and may be able to rep. the flush on the turn if it comes in.

lacrymosa · #7 12-08-2006, 01:07 PM

I call the flop. If I think a raise will take the pot down right then and there I would raise.

Thrahl · #8 12-08-2006, 01:31 PM

Fold here is uber standard. I dont mind the raise if you think villain is weak. But since he is leading into a multiway pot I tend to call in this spot.

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Fold. You're not getting the odds to draw, and you might be up against a flush draw killing six of your outs.

Raise preflop, by the way.

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Flush only kills 2 of your outs. K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

DntRazeMePlz · #9 12-08-2006, 02:41 PM

Raise PF. As others have said, I too call the majority of time in this situation on the flop unless I feel as though the opponent may lay it down by me raising.