3/6 Maximizing vs. TAG - Page 3

sharpie · #21 11-16-2006, 06:14 PM

We don't really want him folding AA assuming we always get 2BB in on the river if we just call. He has 4 outs and the pot is ~13BB, so by making him fold we gain ~1.3BB, and by waiting we make 2BB. I am still tempted to cap the turn though as I'm guessing more often than not he won't fold, and if he does we might be able to take advantage of that later on, although if he's good he'll probably make a note that he made a big laydown against you so maybe this doesn't apply.

Harv72b · #22 11-16-2006, 06:51 PM

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That's something I'd like to discuss (or if any of you have a link to a prior thread on the topic, that would be better).

I don't "usually" fold small pocket pairs on the button vs. a CO openraise, at least not if the CO is a TAG. In this case in particular I felt his initial raising standards would be fairly low because of the blinds...the cap when it got down to HU obviously showed that he had a huge hand.

But is this a fold preflop? It seems like I'm often going to have the best hand preflop, and if I can get it to heads up with position I should be able to escape for a minimal loss if I'm outflopped. I know making a play like this adds to my variance, but I can handle that aspect of it.

I'm still a noob to short-handed play, so I appreciate any & all advice y'all can give me. If I sounded dismissive earlier, it wasn't intented that way.

I just checked on PT, and it's a small sample size & all, but over my first 15k 6max hands on FT I'm showing a profit on all pocket pairs except 44 & 22. I'm VPIP'ing at least 50% on all of them. Is that typical of 6max, or just a byproduct of the sample size?

milesdyson · #23 11-16-2006, 06:59 PM

"if I can get it to heads up with position I should be able to escape for a minimal loss if I'm outflopped."

yeah or maybe you end up folding the best hand when he semibluffs the flop, or maybe he decides to cap semi-light with AJ and flops K9x and you fold the flop. there are good and bad things that can happen postflop. it is hard to get value from this hand because you always have to dodge the possibility of being blown off of it.

plus just the simple fact that you have loose blinds to act back there makes it somewhat rare (maybe 40% of the time?) that you get it heads up in the first place.

regarding your vpip with these pairs, i'll try to remember to check when i get home.