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Old 11-11-2006, 01:53 AM
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Default Messing with mediocre TAGs.

<font color="blue">Hand 1: unremarkable TAG (20/15/5) opens UTGand I 3-bet AQs - TAG pushes, I fold. standard or should I be looking them up here (I'm new to table) - is calling here much better given that they open from EP? </font>

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $98.50
UTG+1: $195.05
CO: $126.75
Matrix: $108.15
SB: $29.20
BB: $20.60

Pre-flop: (6 players) Matrix is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $3.5</font>, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Matrix raises to $12</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises all-in $98.5</font>, Matrix folds.
Uncalled bets: $86.5 returned to UTG.

<font color="blue">Hand 2 vs shortstack donk(very next hand). raise - check it to them - let him think I have zip - cr him all-in when he's committed - yawn</font>

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
5 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $195.05
UTG+1: $195.05
Matrix: $96.15
Button: $28.70
SB: $19.60
BB: $112

Pre-flop: (5 players) Matrix is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">Matrix raises to $5</font>, Button calls, 3 folds.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($12.5, 2 players)
Matrix checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $12.5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Matrix raises to $25</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button calls all-in $11.2</font>.
Uncalled bets: $1.3 returned to Matrix.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($59.9, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $59.9)


River: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($59.9, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $59.9)


Results:
Final pot: $59.9
Button showed 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

<font color="blue">couple hands later. Same TAG villain from 1st hand is OTB and opens and I insta-3bet from the BB.</font>

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $0
CO: $19.10
Button: $110.50
SB: $194.55
UTG+1: $195.05
Matrix: $124.40

Pre-flop: (5 players) Matrix is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
CO calls, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $4.5</font>, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">Matrix raises to $15</font>, CO folds, Button calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($31.5, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Matrix bets $20</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $40</font>

<font color="blue">This time I decide to "CB" the flop as I'm sure the AA hand is fresh in TAG's mind and get minraised. Is a push here bad and I'm losing value with my overpair? I put TAG probably on overcards tho maybe something rubbish like a SC that spiked MP. Is it better to call the minraise or is a 3-bet all-in standard in these spots?</font>
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Old 11-11-2006, 01:59 AM
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Default Re: Messing with mediocre TAGs.

i play hand 1 and 2 the same.

3 i shove

and this should be in SSNL you big 100 NL guy. ill be up there soon
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Old 11-11-2006, 07:41 AM
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Default Re: Messing with mediocre TAGs.

bump for the daytime people.
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Old 11-11-2006, 09:09 AM
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Default Re: Messing with mediocre TAGs.

hand 3 raise more pre
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Old 11-11-2006, 11:49 AM
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raise more then the pot in hand 3??? reason?
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Old 11-11-2006, 11:58 AM
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Default Re: Messing with mediocre TAGs.

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raise more then the pot in hand 3??? reason?

[/ QUOTE ]

We're OOP.
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Old 11-11-2006, 12:00 PM
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Default Re: Messing with mediocre TAGs.

Because ur OOP.

1 and 2 fine, I push hand 3, many turn cards suck. With AA/KK I c/r AI turn here.
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Old 11-11-2006, 12:34 PM
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Default Re: Messing with mediocre TAGs.

I dont like reraising hand 1 since he raised UTG.
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Old 11-11-2006, 08:17 PM
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Default Re: Messing with mediocre TAGs.

What would be a good re-raise size in hand 3?

I just mash the bet pot button in these spots usually and I ought to eliminate lots of the "auto-pilot" stuff I do.

and I'm torn on re-raising hand 1 - yes he raised from EP but I haven't tangled with him yet (and this was the first hand at table I re-raised so his range for my re-raise is probably fairly tight) also I think that hand 1's action has some bearing on what happened in hand 3. I think his hand is probably a little weaker than what he'd otherwise call a re-raise with as I'm keeping pressure on him and showing him that I don't care that I got re-raised last time around I'm gonna keep doing it.
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Old 11-11-2006, 08:19 PM
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Default Re: Messing with mediocre TAGs.

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raise more then the pot in hand 3??? reason?

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defining our hand and giving good odds for people to call with intent of outflopping us=bad.
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