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Old 11-10-2006, 09:23 AM
chesspain chesspain is offline
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Default Re: How would you handle AA here on the flop on button?

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Raise more preflop, 4xBB + a BB for each limper, to $1.5.



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He raised one limper, so that would be to $1.25. But actually, it's not going to make a damn bit of difference in the long run whether he raises 3xBB+1 or 4xBB+1, assuming he always raises one amount or the other, or he randomly mixes it up.
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Old 11-10-2006, 09:27 AM
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Default Re: How would you handle AA here on the flop on button?

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I would have raised to 1.25

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This is an ugly flop to be all-in with.

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This is a fine flop with which to be all-in, since the limper will have a draw a lot of the time.
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Old 11-10-2006, 09:29 AM
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Default Re: How would you handle AA here on the flop on button?

Are we really expecting to see a draw come out of UTG? Frankly I'm expecting this to be a big hand a large percentage of the time.

The slow play to start with, wake up when someone shows real interest line is a prime donkey set/2pair line in my experience.
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Old 11-10-2006, 12:14 PM
Check_The_Nuts Check_The_Nuts is offline
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Default Re: How would you handle AA here on the flop on button?

Whoa, nevermind, missed the action of the 3rd guy.

IMO, your overplaying AA here. Do you raise AKo on the flop?

I think since the pot is 3 way SB can't possible lead out bluff on the turn. If it comes a heart and he has a flush, he'll bet, otherwise he'll check. He's got to expect a flush is out there. I think your somewhat wasting your positional advantage with the flop raise.

Also if you call and shove a safe turn, you look a lot like some draw, and will probably get paid off by a wide range.
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Old 11-10-2006, 01:04 PM
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Default Re: How would you handle AA here on the flop on button?

WHAT!!! NO WAY YOUR FOLDING!!!

This is the easiest fold in the world....

Some of you guys need to learn how to fold aces....

You reraised a little too much IMO too on the flop $4.50 to $6.50 is fine....

The guys are right about the pf raises though 4BB + 1BB pre limper is good [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 11-10-2006, 01:09 PM
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Default Re: How would you handle AA here on the flop on button?

Sorry missed the caller!!! Flop raise is fine then but you still gotta run to that all in ... [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I dont mind calling and seeing what happens on the turn either with An overpair (more A pot control thing) I dont think you can take too much heat here in this spot...
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Old 11-10-2006, 01:11 PM
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Default Re: How would you handle AA here on the flop on button?

I call.

With this draw heavy flop and two villians, you shouldn't raise unless you plan on calling a push.
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Old 11-10-2006, 01:27 PM
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Default Re: How would you handle AA here on the flop on button?

This is a real tough spot, no question. Smooth calling the initial bet, then going over the top is a very strong move. I probably fold without a read, but again it is very villian dependant against a draw pusher or someone who thinks TPTK is the nuts this is a no brainer call, against a rock this is a no brainer fold.

I really think the PF sequence is irrelevant, 1$, 1.15$ or 1.25$ doesn't make much difference.
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Old 11-10-2006, 01:54 PM
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Default Re: How would you handle AA here on the flop on button?

Was the villain in this hand wolfsburg2?

I am pretty sure i played this exact hand. but the flop bet looks weak. maybe a different hand.
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Old 11-10-2006, 01:59 PM
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Default Re: How would you handle AA here on the flop on button?

I can see villain flat-calling then pushing with these possibilities:
- Nut flush draw, maybe combined with GSD
- Flopped monster

I find it hard to believe that he is pushing with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (we're holding the card for the nut flush), so I'd discount that possibility.

So, I guess I'll fold this more often than not.
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