Bluff my OESFD?

Schizo · #1 10-31-2006, 11:27 PM

I raise and slightly laggish BTN 3 bets

Hero A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Flop 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3 of purple dinosaurs

I check call.

Turn 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Checkraise?

rubbrband · #2 10-31-2006, 11:29 PM

2 card flop?

Schizo · #3 10-31-2006, 11:36 PM

fixed

Rubeskies · #4 10-31-2006, 11:39 PM

Pretty easy c/r if he'll ever fold AK-AJ
Probably easy even if he won't

rubbrband · #5 10-31-2006, 11:41 PM

Bet or c/r whatever mix it up.

Catt · #6 10-31-2006, 11:44 PM

I think the wisdom of this move rests on your read of the player. I could support ch-cl, ck-raise; lead-call; lead-3-bet, etc. and would choose both on my read of opp. and the table image I currently have / want to change. You havce so much equity you're seeing a river regardless and not giving up a tremendous amount by doing so at the cost of many bets -- how often will extra bets generate FE from a better hand? How often will extra bets generate value from worse hands?

You tell me -- but without something particular on the player in question, it's hard to rule out any particular play here with your equity.

Kwaz · #7 11-01-2006, 05:54 AM

I think a bigger question is: will you follow up with a river bet if he calls your turn c/r??

JDalla · #8 11-01-2006, 06:20 AM

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I think a bigger question is: will you follow up with a river bet if he calls your turn c/r??

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yes, that is the real crux of the matter

MattiasL · #9 11-01-2006, 06:33 AM

Betting the river UI seems very bad to me. Which better hand calls the turn c/r and folds a river brick?

Unless you have been giving up a lot of your bluffs on the river and think he could peel/fold a better A?

Catt · #10 11-01-2006, 12:19 PM

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I think a bigger question is: will you follow up with a river bet if he calls your turn c/r??

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how often will extra bets generate FE from a better hand?

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By "extra bets" I'm also including possible river lead UI. The answer is: Who Knows? The relative EV of the various plays depend almost entirely on our view of how often Villain will do X when faced with Y -- and all we know about Villain is he is "slightly laggish," 3-bet pre-flop, and c-bet the flop. I might C/R and lead, C/R and C/F, or just about anything else, depending almost entirely on facts that aren't present in the OP.