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| View Poll Results: If you are a VIP what limits do you play? | |||
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0 | 0% |
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1 | 0.88% |
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6 | 5.31% |
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11 | 9.73% |
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14 | 12.39% |
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8 | 7.08% |
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4 | 3.54% |
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7 | 6.19% |
| 30/60 |
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7 | 6.19% |
| no limit |
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14 | 12.39% |
| I'm not VIP |
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41 | 36.28% |
| Voters: 113. You may not vote on this poll | |||
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#31
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Why hasn't anyone even considered what hand ranges AC is putting me on here? [/ QUOTE ] Read my last post again. [ QUOTE ] Isn't that really the crux of the argument... if my range is ahead of his hand he should fold, if not he should call. [/ QUOTE ] After taking into account the price the pot is giving him, right? [ QUOTE ] Keeping in mind that he is very risk adverse and if the decission is borderline then he will fold. [/ QUOTE ] Nope. I mean, he's making proper tournament adjustments, but I can promise you he doesn't pray to the God of Finding a Better Spot Later. [ QUOTE ] Put yourself in Allen's shoes. Both you and the villain (me) have been tight for 6 hours and on this hand you have shown strength and the villain has shown complete disregard for your strength [/ QUOTE ] You minraised and made a small flop bet. Then you made one big bet. That doesn't count as "complete disregard." [ QUOTE ] and has come over the top for his tournament life. What do you have the villain on? [/ QUOTE ] Cunningham knows what he can and can't do with a 150-hand sample size (though he can do more than most with it). I think that you are first a young guy who made a quick all-in on a turn that put a lot of backdoor draws up, and only secondarily a guy who hasn't been caught out of line recently. As far as physical information goes, after that board and turn card and type of pause and verbal all-in, I would take whatever hand weightings I'd come up with and shift them toward draws and bluffs and scared hands and away from monsters. The board is ace-high with some draws and the effective stacks are forty big blinds in a blind-steal situation. Do not try to induce big laydowns. If I'm in Cunningham's spot -- and this is all heavily dependent on a bunch of things -- I think my baseline calling range is AQ+. Against a typical live player this tightens a bit, but that's my starting point. --Nate |
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#32
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The board is ace-high with some draws and the effective stacks are forty big blinds in a blind-steal situation. Do not try to induce big laydowns. If I'm in Cunningham's spot -- and this is all heavily dependent on a bunch of things -- I think my baseline calling range is AQ+. Against a typical live player this tightens a bit, but that's my starting point. --Nate [/ QUOTE ] The board is A983. AC is in the BB against a CO raise. He probably reraises AA/AK, and may reraise AQ/88/99. If his calling range is AQ+, you probably have a good semibluff, because he won't be able to call that often. I think OP played this hand fine. On the river, he could call or fold rather than push. However, I would not put AC on a tight range. I saw AC's play on PPV, and he didn't seem like a nit. He probably wasn't getting cards and the action was a little wild. I certainly would atleast call the miniraise in the BB with any pp, any suited ace, most suited connectors/gappers and most two cards 9 or higher. He could also have a read that OP is stealing and call with less with the intention of making a move like he did. I think there is a good chance AC called preflop with trash or missed the flop and is making a move, which makes the push a reasonable play. If AC had a big hand on the turn, he probably would play for a checkraise. Therefore, the push may be a good play. |
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#33
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Tangential question:
Obviously this is dependant on several factors, but against a pro who is great at reading people, what is more indicative of a monster hand? Feel free to reply how you voted and why |
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#34
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i think there are about 5-6 people whose opinion on your poll i'd at all care about.
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#35
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I would take the time to think it over and decide it was better not to bluff off all my chips against a top pro who is great at reading people.
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#36
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Well said, Betgo.
I believe most pros get a lot of chips from people bluffing into them, not from bluffing people off hands (other then in the right situations obv). |
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I would take the time to think it over and decide it was better not to bluff off all my chips against a top pro who is great at reading people. --------------- I believe most pros get a lot of chips from people bluffing into them, not from bluffing people off hands (other then in the right situations obv). [/ QUOTE ] I am young and therefore have no fear. I think that this helps me in several aspects of my live game and hinders me in other parts. I think that I am good at giving off false tells and since AC does not know me, my false tells will be all that he has to go on if he does have a marginal call that is going to come down to that. In reality, I think that since he does not know me his decission to fold will be based on the fact that I have played my hand like a set Given my reads I think Pf and flop are completely standard. Now on the turn I can fold, having a 65k stack or push and roll the dice that AC mucks and I have a 100k stack. Clearly I am in a much better shape with this big stack as the blinds are big enough for me to open up a bit and start applying pressure once I am a big stack. On the other hand, if my read that he will fold is wrong and he calls then I am out of the tournament 88% of the time. After hours of conservative play I think that my feerlessness has the potential to give me a big stack and big tournament advantage here. This is the right situation for a bluff. |
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#38
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Sorry this hand seems totally absurd to me for a WORLD CLASS PRO, when you put him on such a ridiculous tight range facing an open cutoff min steal raise with all these antes in the pot. [/ QUOTE ] |
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#39
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Also I like the shove even with a more realstic range.
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#40
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whenever u post it just makes me want to search for porn online
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