Paradise Blocks A Few States Today

[Nate tha\\\' Great]

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As I read it, there are three major parts to this announcement:

-- No new deposits or transfers from Americans.

-- Players from the listed states are kicked off immediately.

-- All remaining Americans will no longer be able to play as of Nov. 13.

So in other words, Paradise is pulling out.

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Read their whole announcement and you are right. Paradise is out.

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Caveat: there were lots of reports that Paradise was looking to sell its US-facing businesses. What I think the November 12 thing means is that they're still looking to do that, but want to try and preserve what they can of their US customer base. However, they're playing it safe in states like LA, WA and IL that have relatively stronger internet gambling laws.

[247boss]

OUCH

[Wahoo73]

So far, post-flop but before the turn and river cards, I'd say NH.

[permafrost]

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Also, US players not from the listed states, with funds already on deposit, will have only another month to play there (but not in the casino or sportsbook)...

"Although we will no longer be able to accept additional deposits, players will continue to be able to play at our real money tables with the funds they already have on deposit at Paradise until November 13th 2006."

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They block 10 States now. What Nov. 13th legal changes cause blockage of the rest of the States, as opposed to now?

[Nate tha\\\' Great]

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Also, US players not from the listed states, with funds already on deposit, will have only another month to play there (but not in the casino or sportsbook)...

"Although we will no longer be able to accept additional deposits, players will continue to be able to play at our real money tables with the funds they already have on deposit at Paradise until November 13th 2006."

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They block 10 States now. What Nov. 13th legal changes cause blockage of the rest of the States, as opposed to now?

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Sportingbet was the company that had an executive arrested by state authorities in Louisiana. Thus, they're playing it safe w/r/t any other states that might claim the jurisidiction to do the same thing.

Why allow US players from other states to continue to play until mid-November? That's a better question, but their lawyers probably advised them that the clearest risks are in (1) accepting deposits from US customers; (2) accepting action from US customers in states with more specific internet gambling laws. They are no longer doing these things. However, they're willing to accept a limited about of risk for a limited amount of time, in order to keep the property more attractive to potential acquirers.

[AndyH69]

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As I read it, there are three major parts to this announcement:

-- No new deposits or transfers from Americans.

-- Players from the listed states are kicked off immediately.

-- All remaining Americans will no longer be able to play as of Nov. 13.

So in other words, Paradise is pulling out.

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Read their whole announcement and you are right. Paradise is out.

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But presumably they are filtering Americans by the address details they have entered into their profile. So what's to stop people from changing their details to non-US?

[blueodum]

But presumably they are filtering Americans by the address details they have entered into their profile. So what's to stop people from changing their details to non-US?


They will probably require proof of address change to be sent to them.

[permafrost]

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Also, US players not from the listed states, with funds already on deposit, will have only another month to play there (but not in the casino or sportsbook)...

"Although we will no longer be able to accept additional deposits, players will continue to be able to play at our real money tables with the funds they already have on deposit at Paradise until November 13th 2006."

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They block 10 States now. What Nov. 13th legal changes cause blockage of the rest of the States, as opposed to now?

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Sportingbet was the company that had an executive arrested by state authorities in Louisiana. Thus, they're playing it safe w/r/t any other states that might claim the jurisidiction to do the same thing.

Why allow US players from other states to continue to play until mid-November? That's a better question, but their lawyers probably advised them that the clearest risks are in (1) accepting deposits from US customers; (2) accepting action from US customers in states with more specific internet gambling laws. They are no longer doing these things. However, they're willing to accept a limited about of risk for a limited amount of time, in order to keep the property more attractive to potential acquirers.

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No legality adds more risk on Nov. 13th, AFAIK, so they could extend the date later, correct?

[oreopimp]

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http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...=22#Post7493312

"Party Poker will operate as much as possible in business-as-usual, "buyer beware" mode, perhaps taking some smaller steps like preventing US players from playing their casino games or closing off certain funding routes like IGMPay.

PokerStars will be the most proactive site in pursuing legal strategies against the legislation, and will offer deposit and cashout options to US players in accordance with the opinion of their lawyers.

888.com will stop accepting US players and will do so relatively soon.

Full Tilt will develop some funky new payment mechanism which might or might not be legal.

Paradise Poker will differentiate based on the state of residence of the US player.

Ultimate Bet will go bankrupt or become an acqusition target for a larger site.

Bodog will do something incredibly brash and stupid, get the pants sued off of them, and ruin it for everyone else. "

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Nate,

how the [censored]? seriously.

did you write another logarithm?

btw whats the over/under on the bodog thing.

[haakee]

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But presumably they are filtering Americans by the address details they have entered into their profile. So what's to stop people from changing their details to non-US?

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It's probably based on IP address and mailing address.