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Old 10-09-2006, 11:19 AM
hotmark777 hotmark777 is offline
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Default How do you maximize this crap??

The short stack all in obviously has crap, initial raiser obviously high pair most probably aa/kk what is my move to maximize value? I think min raise is too obvious, and all in might scare away. Opponent said i should have flat called but what is my play on river? small bet? That would have definitively worked but i dont get all his stack which is objective...

***** Hand History for Game 5342625878 *****
$5000 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, October 09, 11:04:25 ET 2006
Table Table 124344 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 5: NastyAsty ( $6162.98 )
Seat 6: hotmark777 ( $9060.66 )
Seat 9: perlu ( $9834.40 )
Seat 4: jkghrtef ( $4875 )
Seat 10: ongelukkig ( $6216 )
Seat 3: Gaahhhh ( $7378 )
Seat 7: lol_donkaments ( $6122.40 )
Seat 1: kineticpop ( $5000 )
Seat 8: Miron113 ( $3569.30 )
Seat 2: Yabai ( $5597 )
NastyAsty posts small blind [$25].
hotmark777 posts big blind [$50].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hotmark777 [ 7c 6c ]
lol_donkaments folds.
hotmark777: liar liar pants on fire
Miron113 calls [$50].
ongelukkig: damn lebanese
ongelukkig: keep quiet [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
perlu raises [$250].
ongelukkig folds.
Yabai folds.
Gaahhhh folds.
jkghrtef folds.
NastyAsty folds.
hotmark777 calls [$200].
Miron113 calls [$200].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4h, 6s, 6h ]
NastyAsty: That's seriously the most boring answer ever
hotmark777: hey we supply you dutch with the best weed
hotmark777 checks.
Miron113 checks.
hotmark777: so if i were u i would keep quiet
perlu bets [$500].
hotmark777 raises [$1500].
Miron113 calls [$1500].
ongelukkig: why do you assume i'm dutch
perlu calls [$1000].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6d ]
hotmark777 checks.
Miron113 is all-In [$1819.30]
hotmark777: haha i know
perlu calls [$1819.30].

ME?
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Old 10-09-2006, 11:22 AM
coxquinn coxquinn is offline
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Default Re: How do you maximize this crap??

i like the shove
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Old 10-09-2006, 11:29 AM
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Default Re: How do you maximize this crap??

If you think he "obviously" have AA/KK on that board, I like a shove.
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Old 10-09-2006, 11:32 AM
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Default Re: How do you maximize this crap??

Call. Then shove 6500 into a pot of 10.5k on river and you get his stack; a raise here looks psychologically more dangerous to most players, but if you just call, they'll usually not be able to get away given the "attractive pot odds".
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Old 10-09-2006, 11:34 AM
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Default Re: How do you maximize this crap??

There is a very important factor to consider and that is that there is a player all in and thus creating side pot means big hand...
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Old 10-09-2006, 11:37 AM
SlowHabit SlowHabit is offline
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Default Re: How do you maximize this crap??

MDMA,

Answer your PM [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 10-09-2006, 11:44 AM
fslexcduck fslexcduck is offline
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Default Re: How do you maximize this crap??

call and check river
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Old 10-09-2006, 11:44 AM
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Default Re: How do you maximize this crap??

I know mark, but regardless of what you do your action will scream "MONSTER"; I just think that in this situation, it's good to let that pot of 10.5k be there in the middle for river..people love those "pot odds calls" when they see how much is in there, as opposed to you "scaring" them by checkraising. Just a psychological thing, a good player, however, will react pretty much the same regardless of what you do here, but even those might feel "obligated" to call getting like almost "3 times his money" on river.
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Old 10-09-2006, 11:48 AM
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Default Re: How do you maximize this crap??

Duck, reason I don't like a check on river is that they might actually, given our turn overcall, check behind with kings realizing you looks SUPERSTRONG. I think aces will most likely push anyway, but can't even be 100% sure of that.

But, mainly because of I fear a really good playing checking kings here (which might happen if he thinks we slowplay AA from BB here ever), I think a push is in order.
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Old 10-09-2006, 11:48 AM
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Default Re: How do you maximize this crap??

Any comments about my turn play? Did i play it good or should i have led out? Or was this the optimal play also?
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