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Old 10-03-2006, 01:44 AM
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the problem isnt right wing or left wing, anyone can see that

[/ QUOTE ]Except that it is. This would NOT have happened if Democrats were in control.

It was only once Republicans had the House, Senate, and Presidency that it finally made it all the way through.

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[censored]. Democrats voted for HR 4411 by a 3-2 margin. It's almost certain that this bill passes no matter who's in power, but the poker boom has happened while the GOP has exclusively held both houses of Congress and the White House.
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Old 10-03-2006, 01:57 AM
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I lived in Japan for three years, 2002-2005 and I am sorry to say that the country I returned to is not the same one I grew up in. I felt much freer in Japan.

When I grew up, my government couldn't read your mail or listen to your phone call without a warrant, like the Soviets could.

When I grew up you didn't need your papers to travel domestically, like in the USSR.

When I grew up, religious extremists didn't have undue influence over the government, like they did in Iran.

When I grew up, the President didn't have the power to lock up somebody for life, on his word alone, without granting them access to a lawyer, or a judge, or a trial.

When I grew up my country didn't have secret prisons in Eastern Europe like the Soviets did.

When I grew up believed that torture of anyone, including POWs or criminals was unconstitutional. We followed the Geneva conventions, even when our enemies didn't.

When I grew up we faced the threat of nuclear annihilation at any moment - no chickenshit band of airline hijackers would've caused us to piss our pants.

When I grew up, I never dreamed the president would say about my country that "it would be easier as a dictatorship, as long as I'm the dictator"

Would the last one to give up their liberty, please extinguish the torch?
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Old 10-03-2006, 02:00 AM
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awesome turingstonepro.

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Old 10-03-2006, 02:01 AM
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I lived in Japan for three years, 2002-2005 and I am sorry to say that the country I returned to is not the same one I grew up in. I felt much freer in Japan.

When I grew up, my government couldn't read your mail or listen to your phone call without a warrant, like the Soviets could.

When I grew up you didn't need your papers to travel domestically, like in the USSR.

When I grew up, religious extremists didn't have undue influence over the government, like they did in Iran.

When I grew up, the President didn't have the power to lock up somebody for life, on his word alone, without granting them access to a lawyer, or a judge, or a trial.

When I grew up my country didn't have secret prisons in Eastern Europe like the Soviets did.

When I grew up believed that torture of anyone, including POWs or criminals was unconstitutional. We followed the Geneva conventions, even when our enemies didn't.

When I grew up we faced the threat of nuclear annihilation at any moment - no chickenshit band of airline hijackers would've caused us to piss our pants.

When I grew up, I never dreamed the president would say about my country that "it would be easier as a dictatorship, as long as I'm the dictator"

Would the last one to give up their liberty, please extinguish the torch?

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np, however some of the stuff happened just the same when you grew up, it was just kept under better wraps. But like I said, np, this country has been going to [censored], its jsut sad that everyone needs something to directly effect them before they can see whast just over the horizon.
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Old 10-03-2006, 02:03 AM
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It's almost certain that this bill passes no matter who's in power.

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Yes, and equally as certain that this bill never reaches a vote if the Democrats were in power.

Both parties kind of suck in general, but this one is on the Republicans.
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Old 10-03-2006, 02:04 AM
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When I grew up, religious extremists didn't have undue influence over the government, like they did in Iran.

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I beg to differ re: the Reagan presidency. Other than that NH sir.
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Old 10-03-2006, 02:09 AM
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Well, Nancy was famously consulting an astrologer - no way that today's fundies would put up with that kind of demonic witchcraft.

And as far as the point that all of these things happened, but were kept under wraps - well, I know that it is at least partially true, but at least we had conscience enough as a nation to be ashamed of such things. And the decency not to rub it in other countries' (and our own peoples') faces.
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Old 10-03-2006, 02:14 AM
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LOL @ the "this isn't a democracy!" crowd.

This IS a democracy, that's the problem, the "bible thumping" crowd as you put it is millions upon millions strong and they vote.

That's democracy.

Obviously I want online poker legal and easy to access, but if hte majority of americans decide otherwise that's not a totalitarian state, that's democracy.

As shocking as it may seem, 2+2 is NOT "mainstream" America.

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[censored] you, seriously. I am as mainstream as they come. I have a wife, three kids and a dog. I hate getting up early but do so M-F to goto work. I vote in every election and pay my taxes.

I do the best I can, and am constantly looking for ways to get ahead. For two years poker has helped me do that. For some overpriveleged jackoffs in the Senate to ramrod through legislation that potentially makes it harder to pay my bills, without even a debate pisses me off.

I have voted Republican for a long time. But I take this personally. I am not going to rush out and vote Democrat, but you can damn well bet it will be a long time before I vote for another Republican. This happened on their watch, and it happened because they cater to these semi-educated creation teaching retard [censored], who have are tooo uptight because they have never masturbated or engaged in oral sex, because their afraid their dead God will see them.

So yeah like the OP said [censored] em.

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i really have no sympathy for you or any other idiot who voted for republicans. the writing has been on the wall for years. it finally caught up with something important to YOU.
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Old 10-03-2006, 02:17 AM
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Default Re: I tried for 2 days to supress my anger, but I can\'t . . . .

In other news: Bill Frist want to make nice with the terrorists, or at least those who harbored them, financed them, and gave them a country to train in.

http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2006/1...in-afghan-govt

WTF? No, really, WTF is wrong with these people?!
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Old 10-03-2006, 02:20 AM
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That's it. I've had enough. I'm gonna go to bed, and when I wake up this nightmare will be over, I'm sure of it.

No more eating curry before bed for me.
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