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Old 10-01-2006, 06:31 PM
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From the New York Times 30 September:

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...At the urging of conservative groups and the National Football League, among other interests, the port security measure carried legislation cracking down on Internet gambling by prohibiting credit card companies and other financial institutions from processing the exchange of money between bettors and Web sites. The prohibition, which exempts some horse-racing operations, has previously passed the House and Senate at different times but has never cleared Congress.


“Although we can’t monitor every online gambler or regulate offshore gambling, we can police the financial institutions that disregard our laws,” said Senator Bill Frist of Tennessee, the majority leader, who lobbied to add the crackdown to the port bill...

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Old 10-01-2006, 07:05 PM
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Old 10-01-2006, 07:05 PM
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I understand why the NFL wants it to look like they're against gambling, but to actually fight against it? unreal
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Old 10-01-2006, 07:07 PM
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No, bang on actually.
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Old 10-01-2006, 07:11 PM
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if you're a smart player who's making money, you should be paying taxes or you're just looking for trouble...sorry if this is a downer, but its just like freelance income in that respect.

horseraces take play everyday - ditto on the preious post..
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Old 10-01-2006, 07:12 PM
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With Bill Frist being a doctor, I would think he would tackle cigarrete smoking [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 10-01-2006, 07:31 PM
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I live in Delaware the little wonder. Gambling is supposedly illeagal here in casino form and I guess now in online form too but I can take a 15 minutes walk to Delaware park and bet on horses or the mindless coin eating machine they call slots. Ive gone with freinds a few times and found this place to be totally point less. Poker is so different filled with lots of fun and complexity of skill and sense I started playing this is the only thing Ill never get tired of studying. The govnt just wants the money only reason y these mindless horse tracks are around. They are so full of [censored] trying to ban onine poker and if I met Frist in life Id have to smack him around with my dick while my friend video tapes it so I could post it on the net. Frist= tool
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Old 10-01-2006, 08:07 PM
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Professional poker players aren't really contributing much of anything to society.

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Ummmm I pay an assload of taxes, donate to multiple charities, and spend lots of my money on goods and services. I bet I "contribute" more to society than most. And what kind of argument is "If a person doesn't "contribute" x amount to society you should outlaw their profession"?

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Old 10-01-2006, 08:14 PM
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With Bill Frist being a doctor, I would think he would tackle cigarrete smoking [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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Cigarrets have the same qualities as online gambling. They are both addictive, affect children, and can tear a family apart. The difference? $$$$

I have said all along that the B & M cardrooms are the key. If they want online gambling, then it will be legal and regualted (and taxed).
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Old 10-01-2006, 08:15 PM
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as I see it Frist did this to score brownie points so he can get some nice fat campaign donations (and maybe a bunch of extra votes) when he runs for pres in 2008.

The older (and wiser ??) I get the more convinced I become that no politician in the history of the world has EVER done anything for "moral" reasons alone - there always is some ulterior motive and it usually involves a significant amount of money. Tho perhaps I am a little too cynical.

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I think this is the primary reason. I don't think he will run many ads on the issue, because it just isn't a winner. But the leadership will write bigger checks to him (or at least so he calculates) and he can use that money to run ads to increase his name recognition. Don't forget that he is not really *that* well known because Americans don't follow politics too closely. Some people don't know him at all and others don't know much about what he stands for.

Also, it's not easy to actually ban something and have as little impact on Americans as it is to ban online gambling. Yes we poker players lost our "job" or our primary source of income, but no official American jobs were lost. Imagine, for example, trying to ban B&M casinos now. There would be a huge uproar over how many Americans will lose their job.

The reality is that this legislation was politically advantageous to Frist, and the man has no scruples taking away the liberties and freedoms of others to advance his career. Whether he is moderately intelligent and aware of what he is doing, or just profoundly too stupid to understand the concepts of liberty and freedom, I don't have enough information to speculate on.
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