In all seriousness, what are you looking for in a woman?

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i am currently dating a girl that fills 90% of that list. the 2 things she doesn't fill aren't deal breakers either. just small bumps.

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I thought you decided to stop posting about your girlfriends/love interests of the week.

Good to see that you changed your mind!

[FortunaMaximus]

Subservience is not inequality, especially in cultural situations. I find it funny how nobody's asked yet how happy Degen's women are to fill that role for him.

[beenben]

If I was in the market, this is what I would be looking for:

+inteligent and interested in learning new things
+open-minded and willing to try new things
+not into games. e.g., tells you what is bothering her instead of making you guess and then being mad when you guess wrong
+positive outlook
+willing to compromise
+attractive physically
+supportive

[Aloysius]

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Which got me thinking. Lots of posts are made on here about hot chicks, and cool chicks alike. I was simply curious as to what the OOTers look for in a chick. Not because I'm worried about finding a man.

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Let me just add to this that what most guys would list as traits they want in a woman and what they actually end up dragging home by the hair are two very different things. IMHO the things that cause an initial hookup seem to be fairly difficult to quantify and are largely dependent on circumstance, luck etc. The qualities we are talking about are the things that you look at down the road a little bit when you realize you're either miserable or you're not.

Also, I think true equals in a relationship are extraordinarily rare. There is ebb and flow but it is almost never a true equilibrium. I think in most successful longterm relationships each person tends to dominate certain areas, and you try to come out somewhere ok in the end.

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NT - this is a very good post. Hope it does not get lost in this thread.

I think in general, if one asserts that the Western 21st century ideal of a relationship (equal partnership) is the ideal, even a moral imperative... one presupposes alot of things that are highly variable in people and cultures.

Things like what truly makes the woman happy (I know many very successful, educated Western women who just want to be "taken care of and raise a family", their words, not mine), what a man is really looking to get out of a relationship... I hate to sound reductive but it's not all that complicated. Some people like to be in control, some people like to be controlled and provided for, whatever.

The key I think is to be honest about what you really want and what would be good for you, vs. what your intellectual preferences of an ideal are.

-Al

[xxThe_Lebowskixx]

I like girls who get scared when they watch horror movies.

I like girls that do things like feed fish in a park, collect flowers, ballet or dance. I fall in love with every french actress I see on the screen.

[Jessica Rabbit]

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Guys - I'm sure there are many in the States who want exactly what Degen wants, but would never say it for fear of backlash from their peer group.



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agreed. Hell it wasnt but 50 years ago and thats what every male in america wanted.



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This seems the perfect spot for this

STOP [censored] UP THREADS WITH OVERSIZED IMAGES PPL -NT

It seems that Alobar is right, its what every man wanted and what was expected from women. [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

[Actual God]

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Most guys are looking for some version of their mom that accepts or even valorizes all of their stupid little boy issues, and is hot enough to keep them interested long enough to knock them up. After that they will get bored and cheat on her.

NT

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freudian cliche.

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but it's the truth, at least for marriage

[DrawingDonkey]

My gf must be intelligent. She also cannot be easily offended or take things personally. Jealousy is no-no, but don't be too nonchalant about the relationship.

She also needs to understand that someone who plays poker 20+ hrs per week is NOT necessarily addicted to gambling.

Constantly wanting to know she is pretty or not fat is bad. If I'm with her, I'm attracted to her. Also, she can't insist on vegan food every night. For Christ sake, eat a slice of pizza occasionally.

Remember that I don't lie. Don't ever call me a liar. Don't lie to me.

She needs to be flexible about when sex should occur. Only morning or only evening isn't going to cut it. She'll need to look good without makeup and I would prefer it if she were more attractive naked than clothed.

She cannot smoke. She shouldn't drink too much or ever think that I'm interested in going to a club or a party.

Ok, I've spent more time than necessary on this. Hope it helps you.

[xxThe_Lebowskixx]

you guys should take a poll among 20-22 years old and see how many of the girls they sleep with will clean their apartment and do their laundry without them asking? Thai girls seem to just be set/trained to be homemakers.

I dont really understand what Deg is getting atw hen he says that he doesnt want a woman that is equal. I dont see what being a homemaker has to do with being not equal. Maybe he can give some examples?