In all seriousness, what are you looking for in a woman?

[xxThe_Lebowskixx]

I am not sure what Degen is trying to say. It might be something along these lines:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...part=1&vc=1

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This thread is filled with generalizations and cliches and is pretty boring.

[DcifrThs]

my ideal woman:

-sarcastic (quick witted)
-smart
-tolerant
-beautiful: soft deep eyes, nice hair, great body, beautiful face.
-relaxed/not a nervous person
-athletic
-skis or is willing to learn (take ski vacations = awesome)
-loves labrador retreivers or dogs and/or is willing to let me have a lab
-plays piano or some instrument v well. huge plus for perfect pitch
-educated/motivated
-smokes herb occasionally or doesn't mind it
-drinks
-loves food and eats healthy
-likes or doesn't mind cleaning after i cook
-great in bed/adventurous in bed
-strong family values
-jewish or willing to convert
-good parents/ i get along w/ them
-has a job or is studying for a job that she loves/likes (added stress from work= bad for relationships IME)

i think thats all i can remember now...

i am currently dating a girl that fills 90% of that list. the 2 things she doesn't fill aren't deal breakers either. just small bumps.

i am willing to settle for (or would be happy w/ a great girl who fills)far less than "mary" (or 90% of the list. im very lucky.

Barron

[Alobar]

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i am currently dating a girl that fills 90% of that list. the 2 things she doesn't fill aren't deal breakers either. just small bumps.


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dcifr,

which two things?

[davelin]

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In my mind, I'd prefer a woman who is not working to one that is.

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Degen, I'm not arguing against this. You want your woman not to work fine, there a lot of men who think this way. You don't want to consider her an equal, that I don't agree with. Why can't your ideal woman still be your equal?

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You guys keep blurring this line between what i prefer and what i find acceptable behavior for a woman

I think women (as all adults) should be able to do whatever they want. People should do what makes them happy. If they want to be equal in a relationship, fine. If they want to their husband to be below them, fine. If they want to be below their husband, fine.

I've been in relationships with equals, with women who dominated me and with women who i dominated. The relationships where I have been the one who is of higher authority and status were the ones that worked the best and where both partners were happiest.

That is all.

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I'm not confusing the two, we're on totally different wavelengths when it comes to defining the word "equal" in a relationship.

[Georgia Avenue]

Full rakez: Agreed with the LOLz. I'm certainly never going to give anybody advice about women ever again. cf my first post in this thread.

My main concern about what Degen is saying is not that he prefers a subservient woman, it's: 1. as many have said, thinking of women as unequal is wrongwrongwrong (they are evil, yes, but equally so)... AND 2. His claim that it's some cultural differance, and that Thai women just LOVE being sex-slaves and cooking for they man. I call BS on protecting your own homegrown sexism with claims to be part of a culture that you couldn't possibly understand fully.

Morality=not just a matter of taste anymore...
Love,
--Otis

[nath]

Yeah I've been thinking about this one. Most of the time I just find somewhere there's mutual attraction-- and that can come from lots of things.
However, using that as my springboard leads me to have white-hot short-term relationships that fizzle out and leave everyone disappointed when the intensity can't be sustained and/or the girl turns out to be nuts.

So in addition to mutual attraction-- which comes from a lot of things, but three things i've always been a big fan of are a great laugh, a great smile, and great eyes-- I'd like someone who's supportive of me and the things I do (my last GF was kind of a smart ass about the online poker thing), who actually likes me and enjoys spending time with me and is happy both when we go out and do exciting things as she is to stay at home. And who enjoys just being together, who on a lazy day can just lay in bed in my arms and enjoy the peace and quiet and be content in that.
I'm attracted to talented and passionate women. And I like dancers. Which may or may not explain why I get a higher proportion of nutty ones than most.

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Isn't your girlfriend Asian? Are we to infer you were an abandoned child?

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No, I don't know where this idea would have come from.

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God, hopefully he wasn't confusing you with AsH. WhAt An InSuLt!!!

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Ash was actually my gimmick account, might as well out myself now that you mention it

NT

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Alobar,

If I used 'some' instead of 'many' would you agree with that?

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well since "some" is defined as an unspecified number, then yes [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] There are obvious women who would agree with you. My objection is that "many" (defined as a large group) definitely isnt true. And just letting you know many would find that satement insulting.

[Aces McGee]

Someone who makes being in a relationship feel as natural to me as being single does.

-McGee