iGaming News Story On NROG. Info Maybe You Didn't Know About Us. - Page 4

IndyFish · #31 09-28-2006, 09:03 AM

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Hi Jay ...

Please keep posting. News updates are always welcome. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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I agree. Skeptical or not, if you're doing half the stuff you claim to do then you're doing ten times what most others are doing. Keep up the fight.

Mr.K · #32 09-28-2006, 09:20 AM

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Hey guys. To answer Mason's question...it's actually something we talked about with the reporter but was left out of the article. The story was long so I'm sure she was trying to not print every word we spoke. So let me clear it up. NROG is not and will not be any sort of affiliate site. The great sites we're working with will match (up to 100%) the donation given to NROG. We get the donation in full and the donor gets to select a site that he will instantly have credit at. We do not take part of the rake, the site does not pay us a dime. This is not an affiliate program and can never be anything close. We hope that its a great way to reward our donaors with something of value to them. Also...it wont cost NROG a cent, this way every dime that's donated can go to the cause.

Again, thanks for teh support guys. We'll keep updating you when we feel there is something credible to report.

JayB
NROG

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I'm not an expert on campaign finance law, but I want to point out that this scheme of reimbursing players (via affiliates) for their contributions to NROG may have legal implications if NROG engages in contributions to PACs or candidates.

Freerollin` · #33 09-28-2006, 09:22 AM

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Give me a break. It just doesn't matter.

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Maybe not to you. Some of the things he has said and his organization have stated merit questioning, wheather you think so or not. Simple questions, nothing more nothing less.

I know if I had put myself in his postion I would be ready to answer all this stuff.

Tuco.

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You promised to stop trolling NROG a few days ago. What has changed?

Hock_ · #34 09-28-2006, 09:35 AM

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I'm not an expert on campaign finance law, but I want to point out that this scheme of reimbursing players (via affiliates) for their contributions to NROG may have legal implications if NROG engages in contributions to PACs or candidates.

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This is exactly right. You need to be very careful about this, in particular with respect to PACs.

nrog · #35 09-28-2006, 09:40 AM

I'm not the guy putting this all together (forgive my ignorance on the issue) but I'm guessing the swarm of lawyers (from our org and the gaming sites) are on top of that. I'm confident in them and their ability to roll out a program that is legal and fair for our donors.

nrog · #36 09-28-2006, 09:51 AM

I must have posted this on a different forum but I'll post again to answer some of your concerns.

This is not an affiliate program at all and can't be for obvious reasons. The donors to NROG will be rewarded by a website with a credit. No money changes hands between NROG and the sites although you could actually consider it a donation from the site to NROG. Our 501(c)4 status was done for a reason...I'm sure I dont need to explain it...you are all definitely on top of your game on these issues.

The agency NROG is using is indeed owned by our partners, including myself. To date the agency has donated and will continute to donate it's services. This means no commissions, no fees, etc. I can't be any more clear. This is NOT about money for us. I and my partners have been fortunate enough in our business venture that we can devote our time and attention to this without making money. We're no Donald Trump...just a few guys who will do whatever we can to help.

Sad that the world we live in no longer accepts help when offered and replies with a thank you, instead we analyize the person, make sure their hand is clean, do a background check and assume their guilty becuase "why would anyone want to help me?". I can assure you all...be skeptical if you must but NROG is not here for anything else but to win this fight with you.

We'll continue plugging away and thank all of you for your support. We'll gain your trust someday...and our hand is always out to help.

Capitola · #37 09-28-2006, 10:02 AM

I want to sincerely thank you, not only for what you're doing, but for answering some of our questions here. The more facts you present, the easier it is to trust you.

I just don't understand why you won't answer the question about the lobbying firm. There has to be a reason that you're ducking this question, but I'm at a loss to explain it.

With that one piece of information, you could easily take the wind out of the sails of your critics here.

cowboy.up · #38 09-28-2006, 10:14 AM

If you don't like nrog - there's a simple thing to do: don't contribute money and just block their posts. It's really sad to see people continually rip apart an organization that is trying to help us. At this point I don't care if it's a lobbying firm or aliens that come out of the sky and beam up Frist, as long as this issue is resolved and I can still play poker. Just quit trolling nrog, those that want to read their posts and help out their (our) campaign will do so - but all this flaming is seriously hurting any progress we might make. We have no chance of fighting this thing if we're fighting each other first and the issue at hand second.

Capitola · #39 09-28-2006, 10:26 AM

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Just quit trolling nrog, those that want to read their posts and help out their (our) campaign will do so - but all this flaming is seriously hurting any progress we might make.

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If you think anything I'm doing constitutes flaming or trolling, then you are in serious need of an internet dictionary.

TruePoker CEO · #40 09-28-2006, 10:35 AM

Briefly, I could care less if the Brian and Jay Radio Show is competent as a lobbyist, so long as they work to rally public support for the right to play online poker.

I thought the article they posted was interesting, it really put them in perspective. (Why couldn't Jay's posts here read as lucidly as Brian's interview statement about public awareness ?) Although the interview undercut a lot of their claims posted here asbout lobbying, it gives a good read on their strengths and weaknesses .... Think of them as Poker's own Rush Limbaughs.

Does anyone know if they actually have current radio exposure ? The article says everything in the past tense, that they sold off their radio network .... It could be worthwhile to try and get them back up and talking .... in poker oriented media. Certainly, another voice is useful.