Update - Week of September 25th

[Beastmaster]

Are we assuming the gambling bill has been attached or do we still have no idea? Or does it really matter because it may be added later or scratched from the DOD later?

[Halstad]

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Are we assuming the gambling bill has been attached or do we still have no idea? Or does it really matter because it may be added later or scratched from the DOD later?

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Adding to his question: If it is on the DoD Authorization Bill how likely is it, it gets scratched off.

[NoSoup4U]

I am not nearly as well-connected as Mr.K and Berge, but I do have some personal contacts with Sen. Warner's office and an intermittant need to discuss issues with my friend. I spoke to my friend today and he said that it was his understanding that Warner was steadfast on blocking extraneous junk from the bill. I asked if this was due to philospohical opposition to that approach or because it would diminish the chance of it passing and he laughed at me. I believe that they consider certain proposals from the House (especially the immigration changes) to be a poison pill that will block adoption of the bill. I don't get the impression that the gambling provisions are really that important to them, because they don't seem to think that they will absolutely block the bill. If the House Rs would agree to a reduced package of ammendments that everyone thought would pass, I think Warner would let it go to the floor. My friend said that it isn't his direct issue to work but that his understanding was that no one was close to an agreement on a reduced set of changes and that he was fairly sure Warner would never allow the full slate of crap that Hastert wants to go through. He did caution me that as it got down to the last minute someone might blink, but his best guess was that the authorization would not pass until the lame duck session.

I used whatever leverage I had to argue against the gambling provision in any form. He more or less told me that if they got the thing packaged right it would most likely pass the Senate in some form. He thought Warner was typical of most Sentors who don't really have a bug up their butt about gambling, but have no particular reason to step up and defend it either. He also said that the authorization bill was probably irrelevant to us if it doesn't get added now. He said once they got to the lame duck session there were a million different ways they could try to get the thing passed, with or without involving the authorization bill. He said if Frist really wanted to get it done in the Lame Duck session, he probably would. He did point out that its political value will go way down after the elections and that everything might look very different then. He did say that they had been receiving calls from poker players, so I guess that is a good thing.

[NoSoup4U]

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Are we assuming the gambling bill has been attached or do we still have no idea? Or does it really matter because it may be added later or scratched from the DOD later?

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This is an impossible question to answer. At the present, there doesn't exists a formal authorization bill. No one can say for certain what is or is not on the bill until it makes it out of conference. The reports that you read frequently reflect the posturing of one side or the other and cannot be completely relied on. If an agreement was reached, it is likely that only a very small group of people would know exactly what it is and they aren't going to post here. This one is a bit odd in that the conference group is huge, but we still won't know exactly what is in the bill until it is reported out of conference.

[nrog]

Good afternoon guys. How easy it is to lose faith huh? I want to be clear...NROG is not a news organization...we do not have reporters trying to write stories. NROG is an active group lobbying on Capital Hill in DC. Our information comes from sources far deeper than any reporter could find (other than those at the AP probably...they know everything! Funny how they haven't written another story since their report of Frist failing...hmmm).

The Hill article is nice...it creates panic which I'm for 100%...we should NEVER stop calling and being active. NROG has stood firm with that message. Also...its important that I point out...NROG has never been wrong with the stories we've released.. I know some of you may believe otherwise but our first release last Monday stated that Frist failed at his first attachment attempt. The fact is...He Did...Yet NROG URGED YOU TO KEEP CALLING/EMAILING. We came back last Friday with a new release that said he may have been trying again. He did not. AND NROG URGED YOU TO KEEP CALLING/EMAILING. Find a posting from us that says "We've won...stop calling"...it doesn't exist!

Its unfortunate. Part of the reason we started NROG was to let you guys all know what was going on in real-time. We didn't like that other lobbying groups were hanging you out to dry with no updates. Sadly you misread or misinterpret information we provide and are the first to judge us based on incorrect stories on the internet. Fact is we have never claimed victory and our sources have all been 100% accurate. Just because a newspaper has an outdated story doesn't instantly make US wrong and them right. Guys...we're here to inform you. We don't think you should have to google this topic and hope the information you're reading is accurate. We are reporting direct from our efforts on Capital Hill. There is no better source right now...

Now...as of today at 12:30pm there was no gambling language in the DoD bill and a key aide to Senator Frist confirmed he is not seeking to attach it again before elections. That being said...here's where you guys run away with information...this DOES NOT mean he will not attempt it after elections. It DOES NOT mean he won't eye a bill other than the DoD. What it means is...right now...as of this moment...his office has confirmed that it IS NOT attached and he has no intentions of trying again before recess. Sen Warner has also held true to his original statement that he will not allow non-germane language in this bill and he and Frist are still feuding over the refusal.

This information has been corroborated through multiple sources, other Senators involved in the fight and other lobbying efforts. Sadly they all believe you do not need to know about this. They haven't told you because they feel if this gets too public it may upset Frist and Company and they may try harder. We simply disagree with holding information from you. We think the more you know the more active you become. Call...Email...BE VOCAL and DONT STOP REGARDLESS OF THE NEWS!

So all I can say is ...this is information, direct from Washington DC...not the internet. Use it as you wish but rememebr one thing that we have never chanegd position on...this fight is FAR from over!

Thanks to all of you who are supporting us in our efforts. For those of you who doubt us we hope we can earn your trust and respect as we continue to fight for your rights.

JayB
NROG
www.saveonlinegaming.com

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While I appreciate the differing views offered on Nrog, it isn't useful to debate them in this sticky. Please try to keep this updated with information.

[antneye]

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[jrbick]

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Jay,

Thanks for the update, and please keep them coming.

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[QuickLearner]

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They haven't told you because they feel if this gets too public it may upset Frist and Company and they may try harder.

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They may have a good point. How about we stop lobbying and confirming victory here and concentrate our efforts on Capitol Hill?